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Old 05-22-2003, 01:40 AM   #1
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Gold Cup Trophy vs. Gold Cup National Match

Could one of you Colt gurus help me figure something out? I recently purchased a new Gold Cup at a local gun shop - the rollmark says Colt Gold Cup Trophy (serial CGT123##). My dealer (a longtime friend) says the gun is brand new stock - and the workmanship is outstanding on this specimen, which is inline with what I've been reading lately about the new generation Colts.

While visiting Colt's new website, I noticed that they refer to their target 1911 as the Gold Cup National Match (no mention of Gold Cup Trophy). My Trophy has a N.M. barrel, and the old style Ellison rear sight / staked partridge front sight, where the National Match on Colt's site has the adjustable Bomar rear sight and a dovetailed front site. I'd have preferred the National Match's sight configuration, but I can live with the weaker Ellison mounting system since I'll only be shooting light semi-wadcutters. Are their any other significant differences between these pistols? Any information you could share would be greatly appreciated.

Oh, and thanks for a great site - I'm new here, but I really like what I see!

Mike
 
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Old 05-23-2003, 06:46 AM   #2
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Bueler? ... Bueler? ... Anyone?

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Old 05-23-2003, 08:42 AM   #3
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Current Colt quality is extremely high on the generic guns. Not a big fan of any of the "special addition" Colt guns including the Gold Cups because you generally get a number of options done poorly.

I suspect the upgraded quality would also be carried over to the Gold Cups....but then again it is Colt and I wouldn't buy it till I looked at it long and hard.
 
Old 05-23-2003, 12:27 PM   #4
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Thanks for the response, Dane! I've owned several Gold Cups in the past and quality was a mixed bag - one was very nicely made, and two others were so-so. The only flaw I've found so far with this one is that the 8 round magazine that came with the pistol doesn't engage the slide stop correctly. The 7 round mag, and all my other 1911 mags (Wilson, Colt, Kimber, etc.) seem to work fine, so I don't think its a problem with the gun. I'm looking forward to sending a few boxes of Federal Gold downrange this weekend to see how she shoots.

I'm still fuzzy on the difference between the G.C. Trophy and G.C. National Match pistols. I've seen comments here and elsewhere that the blued Trophy's have Ellison sights and the stainless Trophy's have Bomar's, but I've also encountered posts that claim that's incorrect. It doesn't really matter, I'm just curious as to what the official scoop is.

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Old 05-26-2003, 03:12 PM   #5
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I use a stainless Gold Cup Trophy with a factory test target dated 4-20-01. Said target shows about 1" at 15yds. I haven't put in a Ransom, but I don't see any difference btwn the test target and mine at 25yds. This pistol consistently hits where I point it! Regarding fit and options, it has dovetailed Bomars and the fit is tighter than a friend's new CQB. That includes barrel, link, bushing, slide, and grip safety. You CAN get the slide to rattle if you shake it VIOLENTLY. It's never jammed with either supplied magazine or 6 other 8rd Shooting Star magazines, is accurate, has good sights and I don't worry about wearing off finish when going in and out of leather. For me, it's what a .45 1911 should be and the pony is nice to have also. So, if your experience with your GCT is similiar to mine, there's no reason not to be sastified.
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Old 06-01-2003, 01:43 PM   #6
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Colt Gold Cup Trophy Match

Mike, this past April I too purchased a Colt Gold Cup Trophy Match finished in a gorgeous polished Blue that only Colt and S&W can do so well. My Trophy Match also has the Ellison sights, which I prefer, but Mike I think the Stainless Steel Trophy Match comes with the Bomar rear sight. The gun shoots 1.5” to 2” groups at 25 yards with hardball or softball loads, which is pretty good with my aging eyes! To date I have fired about 100 factory ball rounds and about 200 cast reloads with no malfunctions. And feeds reliable from the two factory clips provided with the gun and ½ dozen other brands with out a bobble. The slide to frame fit is very tight as is the barrel lock up. When the barrel goes into battery it goes in with a slight snap, like a hard fitted barrel should lock up. And when you apply pressure down on to the barrel hood, when in battery, there is no perceptible downward movement. When the gun is disassembled there is matching wear markings on both the barrels bottom lugs (feet) and to the slide stop pin. The trigger is extremely crisp and breaks at slightly under 4#’s. You would never guess that it has a series “80” parts in it. Pat
 
Old 06-01-2003, 02:36 PM   #7
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Thanks for the additional info, guys! I took the pistol to the range last week and it performed very well - nice tight groups and no feeding problems. If this specimen is an example of what they're cranking out these days, Colt really seems to have their act together again.

Mike
 
Old 08-25-2003, 05:13 PM   #8
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Bought an unfired blued GCT and it shoots very well. Problems do date are a front sight which has loosened twice, and the Eliason rear sight suffers from a walking pivot pin, and the windage pin is gone . Called the factory today and described the problem-Rich told me they would likely restake the front sight but the rear sight would be replaced with something else-what that is, he had no clue. Now I'm nervous.....
 
Old 08-26-2003, 01:56 PM   #9
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They use whatever parts they have in stock at the time...
 
Old 08-26-2003, 05:05 PM   #10
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SSEI-I would guess that to be the case, as it might be difficult to use parts you don't have in stock at the time. Curious to know what said part might me, if the slide is to be modified-that kind of thing.
 
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