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Old 02-13-2005, 08:35 AM   #1
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Drop In Sights For Colt Officers Model

I have a beautiful Colt Enhanced Officer's model wasting away in my gun safe because I find the factory blade type 3 dot sights to be too small and hard to see.

Are any of you readers familier with a company that makes drop in sights that would be an improvement for CCW?????

I am not interested in slide milling on this two tone staiinless gun..... so I'd like an altrernative that could be reversed should I want to return the pistol to "stocK' in the future.

Thanks for your thoughts???
 
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Old 02-13-2005, 12:19 PM   #2
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Your best option is to take a good look at Brownell's gunsmith supply.

They carry just about everthing made in accessories and sights, along with info on whether they need modifications to fit.

The catalog has about 10 pages of nothing BUT 1911 sights.

http://www.brownells.com
 
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I did that this afternoon... and there are quite a few options in the catalog--

but about half require slide milling (which isn't going to happen) and all but

a handful offer only night sights for the officers model (with which I've had

miserable luck)....... So the search is still on!!
 
Old 02-13-2005, 03:48 PM   #4
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Chip McCormick makes a Novak-style no-machine style rear sight.....
 
Old 02-14-2005, 12:13 PM   #5
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Well........ I called McCormicks and spoke with two differnt individuals. I'd guess that their consolidated ages are under 40 and that their consolidated IQs wouldn't be a much larger number.

Neither could tell me if the "drop in"sight would fit the factory Officers cut. I was told that their sight fits a 330" X 65 degree cut.

When I checked that against the McCormick www site.. it indicated that the sight fits a 290" X 60 degree cut. When I called them back I was told "that www site has been wrong for a long time".

A Little Scary and Confusing Huh???


Does anyone out there know if the Colt Govt. and Officers cuts are the same??? Or what size the Officer's cut is????

Thanks for your help!
 
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Maybe try the Brownells tech line, they will take the time to make you happy! Good group
of folks there at Brownells!
 
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I agree their people bend over backward to compensate for what I'd have to call ..... shabby customer service...(or worse).... by many of their suppliers.

(are you listening McCormick---Novak-- Wilson-- etc????????)

The problem here.... is that Brownells doesn't sell the McCormick sights in question.

The search goes on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Does anyone out there know if the Colt Govt. and Officers cuts are the same???
Yes, they should be the same (assuming that yours is a GI-type dovetail and hasn't been machined for another type of rear sight).
 
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Thanks Mr. B... I appreciate you taking the time to "kick in" some feedback.


So do you know which of the two measurements that McCormick quoted should be right???????

My Officer's model is 100% "Colt stock".
 
Old 02-15-2005, 08:17 AM   #10
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Neither is correct for a 1911 rear sight. That dovetail is something like .340 x 65 degrees. AFAIK, McCormick only makes one "drop in" rear sight and it's supposed to fit 1911s. If they offer more than one, order the one that is for standard, unmodified 1911s.
 
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They do indeed offer only one, and Brownells does offer it. Brownells PN# 207-000-008.
 
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I think I'm headed another direction. The McCormick sight also has the wrong cut size indicated in the Brownells catalog too... per Mr. Berryhill..... so dealing with CMC sounds like a crap shoot to me.

The Enhanced Officers has a flat top slide and based on the pictures I'm pretty doubtful that it will look right even if it actually did fit.

I'm not nuts about night sights.. (I jerked them off every gun I had so equiped in the 80s and 90s) but maybe they're better quality these days.

PT makes a set just for the Enhanced Officers Model.. and that is probably what I'll try. That solution will include a new front sight too... which wouldn't have been addressed with the CMC solution.
 
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What about the Yo-Bo Retro sight, I'd go with it my own damn self if I didn't already have
a Novak cut on my Commander......Brownells stock # 100-002-166.
 
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That's a nice looking sight by Mr. Yost.... but it uses the factory front (which I want to up grade too)

It's interesting that they quote a 330" X 65 degree cut just like one of the two numbers supplied by CMC... which is in conflict with Mr. Berryhill's number ??
 
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What kind of 'upgrade' are you looking for on the front sight? I though you didn't wish to
permanently modify your gun? If your staked front sight hasn't flung off, and you don't want
to mill in a dovetail, what would you be seeking? I believe the sizes that Brownells states are
the correct ones for stock Colt slots, but I'll be damned and go to H E double-toothpicks
before I correct anyone, much less an acclomplished 'smith.
 
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I'm shooting to have a sight picture as close as I can get to my competition 1911s which all have BoMar Rears and Dawson fiber optic front.

I just spent the last hour on the phone... and I think if I can get some more details from Mr Yost on his Retro... I'm going to go with that as a rear sight and a staked Trijicon for the front.

That will give me a fast solid set up with a sight picture very close to what I shoot in matches... (even in the dark)
 
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Good luck in your pursuits.
 
Old 02-15-2005, 01:21 PM   #18
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I received an e-mail from Mr. Yost... And had a productive call with the nite sight people here in Michigan.

Mr. Yost's sights are a 100% swap with the factory blades... height... width... cut... etc (thanks to you Mr. Hall for the suggestion)

... and the staked front nite sights should swap with the factory fronts.

So if the UPS driver doesn't drop the ball I should have this all up and running next week.

I'll report back when all the pieces are put together.
 
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If your Colt is the "enhanced" I don't think the CMC sight will work, the rib will be in the way.
 
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Nope--- The Yost rear sight fit like a glove (that's after a little filing on the sight)

The front night sight required a special instalation tool so I sent it home. I'm not interested in a $100 tool to put in a $30 sight.

I put day glow paint on the stock front "dot" sight and love the way it works.

Like I said before-- I'm not a believer in night sights---I found in no light IDPA matches.. that they are good for one round before your night vision goes away!!!
 
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Officers ACP

trying to do the same for my colt officers. Looks like you did all the hard work. Could you reply back with ordering info for the yost rear sight? Much appreciated.
 
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pgwheels:

The last post in this was in 2005....... over 7 years ago.
 
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