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| Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: lebanon pennsylvania
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| Hi Point 9mm pistol
Any one out there have a hi point 9mm pistol?I see mostly good stuff on them.Im thinking of getting one.Already have the carbine and love it.Please dont respond just to trash them unless you actually had bad experiances yourself.I know they are reliable,american made and life time warrentied.Im curious to here from actual owners about the truth of reliability and accuracy.Im not great shot with handguns so mostly for plinking along side my carbine.I dont want the 40 or 45.if i were to get either it would be a 45 in a 1911 configuration.Thanks in advance
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| Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Austin, Texas
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i am also looking hi point 9mm pistol?
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| Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NOVA
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You may be barking up the wrong tree here, boys. You have chosen one of the most finicky groups on the interweb to ask this of. Gunsmiths as a rule are "Gunsnobs". I speak for myself here, but won't deny it. There are certain guns that you can "Get by" with. I tend not to go for them. I don't want to put my life, or even a match score on the line with any equipment that I see as subpar. That's a big commitment, and one I don't take lightly. As an FFL, I wouldn't recommend them. I find 'em to be terrible, ergonomically. As far as reliability goes, I'm truly not sure. I have known one person that owned one, and had NO issues. They were not a volume shooter. They used factory ammo that was NOT +P ammo, and always FMJ for affordability. I've known one other person that had a carbine from them. That gun was also reliable, but not put through the wringer like most of my guns are. Same deal. Factory ammo, nothing too hot. Both guns were in 9mm, if that matters to you, I'm not sure. Neither were terribly accurate, but that's subjective too. What are you going to be using them for? A carbine that shoots 10in at 100yds is okay for some, but will get you nowhere if you're competing with it. Have you had a chance to handle them or any other pistols you are considering? I'd definitely recommend you at least handle/shoot them a little before you drop your hard earned $ on one. $175 aint a lot, I know. Still, I can't help but think that I'd rather save up another $200 and drop it on a RIA 1911 or a pre-owned pistol of a higher quality. That's if I were counting on 1 gun. I have dropped a $125 on a Jimenez Arms .22. My buds thought I was losing my mind. That gun has eaten every round I fed it, and never gave me an issue. If you look that gun up, you may think I'm nuts by saying one thing and doing another. You may be right. Some say a "Pot metal" gun aint worth a lick. Like I said, I've had plenty fun popping rocks, cans and all types of stuff out in the woods with it. It's a .22 and cheap to shoot. I dont carry it for defense. I wouldn't either. That's because it's a 22. They make larger caliber guns, but I have little experience with them either. What are you doing with the gun? |
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| Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Huntsville, Ala.
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If you can shoot one before you buy, preferably in comparison w/shooting other make(s) at the same rental range, I think you'd profit by the experience, even if the price of renting, etc. seemed high at the time.
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| Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: lebanon pennsylvania
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Just plinking for the most part with it.i already have the carbine and love it.It is more reliable than my marlin camp9(which BTW love that gun too so not bashing it.)And one of the most important things in this economy is it is american made and life time warranty on the gun.People say they are ugly.Well my ruger p95 looks alot better but(know im gonna get bashed for this) I think hi point look about the same as a glock.Ive seen "proper" reviews on both hi point carbines and handguns and to be honest most of the pros have very little bad to say about them. Also wont buy any more preowned.Bought a savage striker from cabelas years ago.Well cabelas gunsmiths didnt check it out good.It is waiting to go to the gunsmith.It occasionally goes of when chambering a round,not good for a large caliber hunting pistol ,nor any gun for that matter. Very unlikely that i would carry the hi point concealed.I have a ruger and makarov that i trust more(dont trust internal hammers with one in the chamber) and a ruger blackhawk in 41 mag for when running around the woods. Thanks for taking the time to answer though.i appreciate it.Gunshow coming up this weekend so may be a moot point if i find something else.lol |
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| Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Florida
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If I could throw an opinion out: When I go shopping for a car, I also look in the repair bay to see if the same model makes a lot of appearances in there. When shopping for a handgun, which has the most accessories available. I check at a range and see what is available to rent and what others are shooting. A range will only have sturdy, dependable handguns to rent that have proven to take the abuse (and this includes accessories like mags). I would not rent out a handgun if I have to buy or fix it continuously. How many Hi-Points have you seen in competition? How many ranges offer it to rent? How many have you seen on the range on a normal shooting day? Can you go to the (insert a chain sports store here) and get mags for the Hi-Point? Those are the things I look for. |
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| Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: lebanon pennsylvania
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Hi points have a lifetime no questions asked warranty and even with that are one of the least returned of all guns.They have free shipping also so magazines and other accesseries are easy to get.Just ordered some for my carbine thursday and they will be here tomorrow.i spent $17 per magazine.Cabelas sells them but for $25. Almost every professional gun critic ive seen has nothing but praise for it.They all say they go off every time.Ive only seen 3 "bad "things about them.Low magazine capacity,alittle on the big side to carry and they are "ugly".Personally i think they look very similar to glocks for about 1/4 the price.Their are also police departments that use them.Admittedly not alot but if you look you will find them. And the #1 thing is they are 100% american made.Funny how everyone complains when they lose their job to over seas competition but have no issues giving money to a foreign gun manufacterer.
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| Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Florida
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I have a couple of firearms from overseas, but most of mine were made here.
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| Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: in
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Go to u tube NUTNFANCY does a review on a C9 hi point . I have never owned ,but bought my dad one , and it has always worked and never failed him. Personally i am a glock man and 1911,but inexpensive guns are nice options.
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| Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: lebanon pennsylvania
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Thx kimber.Ill have to check it out.Thinking of a 1911 also.Local gunshop has citadel's on sale for $450.They any good and is that a good price?
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| Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NOVA
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If you really compare it to a GLOCK, it doesn't look all that much like it, other than being black and having no external hammer. Too, even being a GLOCK fan, I admit GLOCKs are UUUUUUGlYYYY. They work though, and there are a million parts, factory and aftermarket for 'em. The above poster making comments about them being rented or used in comps, or by PD's makes some good points. I've never thought of that as a good measure, but I think it's because I hadn't thought of it at all. Now I will be sure to use those as some of my measures when shopping. If you are hung up on it, go for it. American made is a big deal to me, too. There are others though that have lifetime warranties though. Jimenez Arms, and SCCY come to mind. Nevermind Ruger(Prolly my personal fave of ALL manufacturers). Kudos to you though for making AMerican made a top priority for your purchase. God bless you, and I hope more of us start doing that since we ALL know our economy needs every bit of help we can give it against the evil people working to wreck it. P.s. I hope "Herplover" is a reference to loving reptiles, not chicks with herpes! lol |
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| Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: lebanon pennsylvania
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Ruger makes my favorite handguns as well.Love the blackhawks and also own a P95. Herp lover is reptiles.Own a bunch of snakes,lizards and turtles.lol.
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| Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NOVA
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I knew it!! I told my wife that. Something was telling me you don't strike me as the type to enjoy a burning insatiable itch accompanied by sores for the rest of your life!lol Funny you say that about your Ruger. Goes to show beauty is subjective and definitel in the eye of the beholder. My Dad and my Father-In-Law both acknowledged that Ruger makes some of the strongest and most durable guns available. None of us would ever call em pretty though! Built like a bank vault, for sure. Bill Ruger def preferred function over form. I love 'em, but I think they're mostly ugly. Rugers, that is. Especially their semi-auto handguns. I've seen some gorgeous M77s and 10/22s before, and surely some drop dead gorgeous #1s, but NEVER a P series pistol!lol |
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| Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: lebanon pennsylvania
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My favorite "looking" of the handguns are the various 1911's but alot of them are way out of my price range.A close 2nd would be berettas which once again cost more than i want to spend.Cost alot to feed my pets so cant spend a ton on guns.Try and get 1 a year and already up to 2 this year.Got the high point carbine in 9mm which is fun and reliable to shoot and got a savage axis in 223 which is amazingly accurate.Cant wait to pop a groundhog with it.
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| Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: in
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nutnfacy has , a favorable view on HI-POINTS and he personally hates them but they work ,in real world testing , i think he is a straight shooter.
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| Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: lebanon pennsylvania
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May pick one up this weekend.Gunshow in town and got bonus from work.On the bad side my ford focus is going in for repairs on a bearing in the front wheel and oil light came on while driving it there so could spend whole bonus plus on repairs.homer says it best with DO'UH.
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| Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: columbia
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ive had mine for awhile and love it everyone who trashes them usually hasnt shot one..im in the lookings for a 9mm carbine myself ilike the pistol so much
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| Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NOVA
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Sorry you're in Columbia. If you were in Virginia I'd offer ya the "Pistolsmith Pricing" hookup!
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| Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: United States
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Hey! I think Gun Nation will definitely work for you. It is an easy and convenient way to buy and sell guns or related products online. Go ahead and get it what ever you want.
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| Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004
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Locally, in the news within the last year, there was an incident where a Hi Point .45 pistol "went off by itself". I believe it was in a holster. It was in the rear of a vehicle behind the driver. Can't remember if it was under the seat or in the seat. Anyway, if I remember right the driver was shot in the back, this while the vehicle was moving. I have tried to look it up and see if the news story is still on the net.
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| Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004
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I stand corrected. The victim was in the PASSENGER seat. I found the article doing a Google search and landed on a thread on AR15.com. Here is the article: UPDATE 2: No charges filed in accidental shooting; victim - WRCBtv.com | Chattanooga News, Weather & Sports I do not know exactly what happened, I don't think the police entirely do. I do believe there is always absolute truth in any situation. It reminds me of those safety videos we used to see at work - "Safety Shorts" - narrated by the late Claude Akins. They would cover a particular topic, and would always end by Claude saying, "This is Claude Akins, reminding you that SAFETY is your job too." Whatever brand gun we're carrying, storing or transporting, we always need to be aware of where the muzzle is. If the gun goes off for whatever reason, where is the bullet going to go. Last edited by NewsFlash; 09-21-2012 at 05:35 AM. Reason: emphasis added |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Central Ohio
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I just read that news article. Having a loose, unsecured, loaded, one in the chamber, safety off weapon is a disaster waiting to happen. Put that in the back of a moving vehicle with a child in the backseat? Just how many errors/lack of judgement does that add up to? Can't they just arrest this person on the basis of stupidity? Oh, and please note: Hi-point pistols, at least those I've seen, HAVE a safety with a visible red dot when the safety is off (The article was unsure that Hi-points have them). Ray |
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| Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Huntsville, Ala.
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I read the article. I don't believe the gun fired all by itself, even if it is a Hi Point. Even if the hammer/sear engagement was bad, something still has to either trip the trigger or jar gun hard enough to release the hammer. I know someone who inherited an old double barrel shotgun. He said if you pull the trigger, both rounds fire. Yep hammer/sear engagement was bad in the left? barrel, but it would be obvious to anybody carefully dryfiring each barrel. Still, it won't fire the second barrel if the gun were to just sit/stand without somebody/something messing with it. Jar it hard enough the right way and yes the hammer drops. Still has to be jarred the right way; doesn't go off all by itself. |
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