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Old 02-14-2014, 07:55 AM   #1
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I need some help

I bought a used colt king cobra not to long ago at Scheels. I wore for the first time last Sunday, but it being so cold out hadn't shot it yet. So yeah that's probably my first mistake but anyway. When I came back home to my apartment I took it out and as I brought it up to open and dump the cylinders it went off. So now I am facing a reckless endangerment charge. I don't think I touch the trigger but I don't know. Luckily no one was hurt but the round did go through the wall and out my neighbors window. I wasn't mistreating the pistol or playing around with so I think their charge is excessive. I guessing the sear must be worn or something. Please help me any ideas are greatly appreciated.
 
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Old 02-14-2014, 12:08 PM   #2
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Tyler, my first reaction, after the shock wore off and I checked to make sure that everyone is OK; is to call an attorney. If the police haven't already confiscated the gun seek out a professional gunsmith who can (for your side) tell you if there is some mechanical problem; I hate to say this but somehow your finger was probably on the trigger...
 
Old 02-14-2014, 12:33 PM   #3
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I checked on my neighbor first, then called an attorney, then my landlord showed up and had the cops came and took my pistol. Luckily its my first offense ever but I still want my pistol back to have checked out.
 
 
Old 02-14-2014, 02:49 PM   #4
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Did you have the hammer cocked back when you were carrying it?
 
Old 02-14-2014, 03:13 PM   #5
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Yes. That's the only holster you can get. Cocked with a leather strap. Stupid way to carry. I'd rather have a strap come behind the the down hammer then how the holsters are made.
 
Old 02-14-2014, 04:37 PM   #6
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To start out, my qualifications:
I was a watchmaker/gunsmith for 30 years.
My specialty was restoring Colt double action revolvers to factory specification mechanical condition.
We served as a trade shop offering gunsmithing to other gunsmiths who weren't qualified on the Colt revolvers.
I'm totally familiar with the later design Colt revolvers like the King Cobra.

In 1969 Colt introduced a totally new design of double action revolver action as the Colt Mark III series. This progressed to the slightly improved Mark V series, then to the King Cobra.
So successful was this design, every other brand of double action revolvers and most single action revolvers designed since use Colt's design almost unchanged.

First, I've never seen or heard of a REVOLVER holster that was designed to carry the gun with the hammer cocked.
I suspect you either had the wrong holster for the gun or a cheap holster that wasn't made very well.
There are MANY holsters available for the King Cobra and none of them are designed for the hammer to be cocked.
There is NO revolver holster made for ANY revolver that is intended for the hammer to be cocked.

The Colt King Cobra was about the safest double action revolver ever made.
It has a transfer bar safety/ignition action design.
In this type of action the hammer CANNOT touch the frame mounted firing pin, no matter what.
When the trigger is pulled or the hammer is cocked a flat metal plate rises up between the hammer and the frame mounted firing pin.
This flat plate is called a transfer bar and is attached to the trigger.
When the trigger is pulled the hammer drops and strikes the flat plate which "transfers" the hammer strike to the firing pin.

The key feature of this type of action is that the only way it can be fired is by pulling the trigger.
If the cocked hammer is struck hard enough to cause it to drop, the transfer bar is snatched down from between the hammer and firing pin and the hammer strikes the frame.
Since the hammer itself CANNOT touch the firing pin the gun cannot fire.

Next, like all modern double action revolvers, the King Cobra cylinder CANNOT be opened with the hammer cocked.
Before you could open the cylinder to unload it, you would have to lower the hammer.

To be absolutely blunt, this is totally your fault.
First, you carried the gun in a holster with the hammer improperly cocked.
There is simply no defense for doing something like this with a revolver.
Some automatics can be carried cocked with the safety locked on, but NEVER, EVER a revolver.

Second, one way or another you pulled the trigger or got the trigger fouled on something that caused it to be pulled.
Due to the Colt design the ONLY way the firing pin can be struck is if the trigger is pulled, whether the hammer is cocked or not.

Again, to be blunt, carrying a revolver with the hammer cocked is very much reckless endangerment on your part.

Reckless endangerment is doing something you knew or SHOULD have known was unsafe and dangerous.
If you are so inexperienced that you didn't know that carrying a revolver with the hammer cocked wasn't safe may be your only defense.
The counter argument from the police or prosecutor may be that carrying a deadly weapon without bothering to learn how to use it properly and safely is no excuse for endangering everyone within a mile.

Finally, attempting to argue that this is the fault of the King Cobra, which is well know as an extremely safe, trouble free revolver, or arguing the holster was at fault is going to be a non-starter as any kind of defense.
YOU used the gun and the holster in a totally improper and unsafe manner.
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Old 02-14-2014, 05:25 PM   #7
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To be absolutely blunt, this is totally your fault.
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This is a lot more polite than I would have been...but I erased the paragraph I was writing that compared his IQ to that of a turnip.
 
Old 02-14-2014, 05:26 PM   #8
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Yes. .
Explains everything.
 
Old 02-14-2014, 05:39 PM   #9
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Just plain wrong

Have to agree with the others. The only defense would be complete incompetence. The laws of science prove that there is no way this gun fired itself. This is why people are scared of their neighbors having guns. Making us all look bad. If you do get out of this do us all a favor and take up fishing or get a stun gun for self defense. The " it just went off" defense will never fly.

Also even by some great mystical occurrence the gun did malfunction. Which it didn't. a gun with bullets in it should not have been pointed anywhere but in a safe direction while unloading

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Old 02-14-2014, 05:53 PM   #10
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No holster exists that requires a revolver to be carried cocked
 
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