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Old 06-07-2002, 04:08 PM   #1
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For starters I'm new to this. However I am ass-uming that most people are carrying on there hip or slightly further to the back, on the strong side, correct? What are the pro/cons to in front on opposite side, espesially in a car/seated any where. And iwb/owb. Thanks much
 
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Old 06-07-2002, 11:06 PM   #2
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Litman, You are correct that most people carry a handgun on their strong side. Either in the 3 or 4 o'clock position. Some position the gun further back over the kidney area, but I have been seeing a trend in the last few years for wearing the gun closer to the 3 o'clock position.

Cross draw, IMO, is limited for concealment use because of the necessity to wear a garment that will not allow the gun to be seen. It is also much harder to protect the weapon in a scuffle. On the other hand a cross draw can be great for car use, but again, when exiting the vehicle, one must be careful not to allow the gun to be seen.
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Old 06-08-2002, 03:37 AM   #3
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I carry my gun positioned so the butt is slightly forward of 3 O'clock, canted so the muzzle is slightly aft of 3 O'clock. This is the most comfortable position for me, and although not as convenient to draw from while seated in a vehicle as cross draw would be, it can be done. I find it is more important to always have my gun in the same place, on duty or off, so my hand knows where to go when I reflexively reach for my weapon. The only exception to this for me is when I can't be visibly armed, and need to tuck in my shirt...I then resort to a snubby in an ankle holster.
 
Old 06-08-2002, 10:42 AM   #4
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Tim, safe to say you are outside the waist ban?? How does the "plastic" holsters feel iwb? Thanks for the input.
 
Old 06-08-2002, 10:42 AM   #5
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Just a suggestion based on some customers we have. If you need more cant on your holster, ask for it. Standard is often 11 degrees of cant. It may not be enough.

If you are built a little short waisted or bulky or want to carry more at 4:00 to 4:30 position extra cant may work better. You don't have to come up so much before stroking forward.

Tucker has custom altered his standard design holsters up to 24 degrees of cant for some customers. I'm sure others could as well.

Anyone have a thought on this? Any one else like more cant?

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Old 06-08-2002, 09:15 PM   #6
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simple question Rob, How do I know how much cant will work w/o buying one? Diffrent cants with diffrent holsters I assume. Thanks again...........
 
Old 06-08-2002, 11:39 PM   #7
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I carry my holsters slightly behind 9 o'clock (I am a lefty). Not too far behind the seam line of jeans. It is close to the position of my duty holster and works well for me. I think it really takes some trial and error to find what works best for you.
 
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Litman, if you wear it just behind the point of the hip, standard cant will work for most. If you have short arms or a short waist or less flexibility, a little more butt-forward angle might work for you.

Certainly, the farther back you move it the more you should consider a little more cant.
It certainly depends on your build and your flexibility.

The way to tell is to see if there is a hitch in your draw that binds as you come up out of the holster before you start and raising your forearm to begin presenting the gun forward.

It is all personal and usually not a big concern for most.

I'd appreciate Lou's opinion on this. He has way more experience fitting people than I do.

The issue is personal for me because I like more cant than some others do.

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Old 06-10-2002, 06:12 AM   #9
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I carry my Gov't Model IWB in a Versa Max II as close to 3:00 as possible, with the bulk of the pistol behind the point of my hip "bone". (It's titanium, actually). :grin:

I keep my Combat Commander OWB in a D.O.J. (straight drop) close to my left front pocket. It allows for cross-draw, so it works great from a seated position or standing, or I can draw with my left hand by pronating that wrist, getting a firing grip, drawing up, rotating my wrist back to "normal", then coming out to the target. (Jim Higginbotham showed me this technique.)

As a side note, I carried the Commander in a more aggressive cross-draw position this weekend - around 10:30 to 11:00 - and had great success in keeping it concealed under an untucked shirt. I even drove 8 hours with it like this, twice!, and had minimal discomfort even though the bottom of the holster was resting on the top of my thigh/hip the whole time. This is a testament to Lou's great design as this region of my body does not lend itself to be described as "slender".

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Old 06-10-2002, 08:17 AM   #10
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litman252,

First of all, let me say I misspoke in my original reply. I'm a lefty, so I should have referenced the 9 O'Clock position instead of the 3 O'Clock position.

I was actually refering to off-duty carry, which for me is inside the waistband about 90 per cent of the time. I use leather holsters for my 1911's, and plastic for my Glocks. Same rules apply in both cases with regard to positioning on my hip. This is compatible with the way I carry on duty as well. (Duty rig or OWB for non-uniformed assignment.)

I have both Blade-Tech and Sidearmor IWB kydex holsters. The only thing I notice different about the kydex is they can be thicker in the area of the rear seam, where the two pieces of kydex are fastened together.

Tim

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