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Old 02-29-2008, 03:01 AM   #11
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Springs

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S&W 39/59 series recoil springs can be cut to length for BM/BKMs.
Now, that's good to know! Thanks ret!
 
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Old 02-29-2008, 04:39 AM   #12
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I D P A

Most IDPA shooters will suck HINE TIT at a USPSA match....That is a given, take it or leave it....Most IDPA shooters live on cover, as in You must shoot from cover, I've tried to point out to these people there is very very seldom any cover around, unless You can carry a 3/8in. steel plate 3ft.x 6ft with You at all times, sheet rock walls, Hollow core doors, Hollow core metal doors, fire Hydrants, garbage cans, car tires, COME ON.???

SAT. and SUN. shootin' what else has a Civilian got.....How many HANDS outside of USPSA type shootin' own timers, how do You know if You are improvein without Timers and record keepin', if You don't compete how do You know what can be done with a pistol, sometime You got to see it to beleive it.....Large sights, come on JOHN, How in the HELL You expect Me to hit anything at all ( at 66years old ) without large big sights let them hang on something I'll get them loose .....QUICK

Diggin thru the safe I've come across a STAR 9MM that weighs as much as a 1911.....Looks to be very well made....possibly early 1940s

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Old 02-29-2008, 04:04 PM   #13
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Sights and Stuff

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You don't compete how do You know what can be done with a pistol, sometime You got to see it to beleive it.....Large sights, come on JOHN, How in the HELL You expect Me to hit anything at all
Aw, Billy. Ya know I gotta poke ya with a stick onece in a while to see if you're still breathin'. :lol:

The thing about defensive pistols is that...they're most likely gonna be used so close that you powder burn whoever you shoot. Low light...no light...hand-to-hand stuff, and you ain't gonna have time for sights if you have enought light to even see'em. In most of these things, if you take the time to look for your sights, it could damn well be the last thing you ever see.

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Diggin thru the safe I've come across a STAR 9MM that weighs as much as a 1911.....Looks to be very well made....possibly early 1940s
That's an old one...Steel frame. The ones with alloy frames are a bunch lighter. Mine is about 2 ounces lighter'n a LW Commander. Easy on the hip and back, if ya get my drift.

I still carry a big Colt, though. One day, I may heft that thing and decide that I've had enough...and go to the little Star.

retDAC...I ain't up on the Smith 39/59 series. Brownells lists a spring for the 5903. Same thing?
 
 
Old 03-03-2008, 12:14 PM   #14
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retDAC...I ain't up on the Smith 39/59 series. Brownells lists a spring for the 5903. Same thing?
Yes, 39, 39-2, 59, 439, 539, 639, 3904, 3906, 5904, 5906, etc.

The recoil springs for the shorter slide/frame models 559, 669, 3913, 3914, etc. might work w/o cutting but I haven't checked that.

BTW, the models from 1921 or 1922, when the first locked breech (Colt/Browning tilt barrel) models were introduced, until replacement by the Firestars and DA guns, are commonly referred to as the Classic Series.

There were at least two frame widths in the full size models: one for 9mm Largo/9mm Parabellum; the other, .45 ACP. The .45 size frames were also used for .38 Super and 9mm models sometimes, I think.

The 9mm Largo models, at least in the .45 frame width, will also handle STD Pressure .38 Super rounds.

The aforementioned models all had 5" barrels/slides AFAIK w/steel frames. In the early to mid-70's, Star debuted two departures w/smaller aluminum frames: the PD in .45 w/3.9" barrel and the BKS (aka Starlight) in 9mmP w/4.25" barrel. The latter of these was sized exclusive to the cartridge.

The BKS was dropped in the 80's when the steel-framed BM and aluminum-frame BKM were introduced. Each of these two frames were also sized exclusive to the 9mmP cartridge and appear to use all or most of the same parts as the BKS including magazines. However the barrels/slides were 3.9" and now single locking lugs are on the barrels. There seems to be some other dimensional changes as slide assemblies among BKS' and BM/BKMs won't slip completely into the opposite frame.
 
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Good info, Ret. Many thanks.
 
Old 04-27-2008, 09:33 PM   #16
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Star PD Late Entry

I've owned a Star PD for about 20 years, when I got it the Star was the smallest, lightest 45 ACP made. Wolff Springs make recoil springs for them, no need to cut down S&W M39 springs.

The weak points of this weapon, in my opinion, is the recoil buffer. They are available, but Star made two styles, one was also an integral recoil spring guide spacer, the other just fit around the recoil spring guide. My pistol had the buffer as part of the spacer for the recoil spring guide. I now use a CLASSIC PISTOL, INC. (CP) nylon buffer for a 1911, and made a spacer from brass (30 cal. carbine case) and recently aluminum.

Also, my feed ramp has several dents from FMJ ammo. I now practice with lead SWC bullets with no bad effedts.

The other things that bugged me were the sharp tang and the sharp edge on the rear of the thumb safety, both have been smoothed on my pistol.
 
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I love my Star, and have carried it off and on for 30 years, too! It's like having an English motorcycle, if you keep it up, it will be reliable.
 
Old 01-20-2014, 07:06 PM   #18
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The Star PD was highly regarded as a backup gun for LEOs back in the 60's and 70's. I bought one in 1978 and have put several hundred rounds of factory hardball through it. Never had a problem with my Star PD.
You may find it difficult to get spare magazines. And you may have to have your carry leather custom made.
 
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