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Old 10-27-2011, 08:19 AM   #11
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Pistolsmithing a Bul M5 Carry Comp

Thought I would bring this thread back on topic
I am the Bul distributor for Australia. When I started importing them, I brought a couple of the carry comps in thinking that they might be of interest for IPSC Modified Division. Modified never took off here so they didn't sell. I decided to modify one to make it a better carry gun.

This is the first attempt.


I shortened the grip and magazine to Officers model length. Turned out to be quite simple to do. Capacity dropped from 14+1 to only 12+1. I also undercut the bottom of the triggerguard for a higher grip. A steel mag catch and cut down Sprinco guide rod was added.

The next time I attacked it, I added a DAWSON Precision light rail. Its more compact and holster friendly than the normal Weaver style rail. The first generation M5s with the square trigger guard has the early style Beavertails. So I attacked it with an angle grinder and reshaped it to the later "Hi-cut" style.


Next I made a new comp so that I could cut the front of the slide to a Browning Highpower style. The slide and comp were finished in an electroless nickel/teflon finish. A tritium/fibre optic front and a Novak adjustable rear sight were fitted. The trigger guard was rounded off to be the same as the later model M5s. All the steel parts on the receiver, except the exposed parts of the receiver itself, were finished in a PVD coating similar to TiAlN. Not visable from the photographs, the barrel was also hard Chromed and the magazine Electroless nickel plated.



Incidently the other gun is a Bul-X, it was also sold by Kimber as the Ultra II. It has a 3" Barrel and 10 round capacity.

Finally I painted the exposed parts of the frame with matt black Duracoat to match the other bottom metal. This is the final result.





A fun project and an opportunity to experiment with different finishes. Sorry about the poor photographs, I haven't got the hang of these new fangled digital camera yet.

Peter Dawson
 
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Old 10-27-2011, 08:41 AM   #12
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I'm not knockin what You have done to this pistol , question is do You think there is any less recoil or muzzle rise with this one compensated vs none compensated.....Years back I experimented with lots of different comps on 45 cal 1911s ...to this day I don't beleive a 45 builds enough presure to work a comp....I can tell the difference in a 9x23 loaded hot , comp vs noncomp....I've never been able to tell the difference in 45acp

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Old 10-27-2011, 08:53 AM   #13
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Wild Bill, to be honest, I didn't notice a difference of any significance with the one comp'd .45ACP that I shot either. Slick lookin' pistol, however......
 
 
Old 10-27-2011, 11:13 AM   #14
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Jim Clark Sr. an I discussed comps on 45s a lot. He was of the opinion that the extra weight at the end of the barrel was all that had any effect , That the 45 acp doesn't produce the pressure a comp needs ....I could never see a difference in the multi ported Schummen (sp?) barrels that We had to cut the slides out for the comp to run thru....

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Old 10-27-2011, 01:03 PM   #15
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@ Peter Dawson

Thanks for your input ... I like what you did to your BUL's.

Can you sell Bul's to us here in the USA?

@ Wild Bill Caldwell -

I shot my wife's comp BUL right beside my Kimber Polymer Gold Cup (w/o comp) and could not tell the difference in recoil.

 
Old 10-27-2011, 04:40 PM   #16
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On topic?!?! What the he** is going on here?! WHo ever heard of such a thing? On topic... Sheesh.....

Nice gun, really. I liked the BUL guns from jumpstreet. I was surprised they never seemed to catch on much in any market that I know of. I would've thought the action pistol set would've embraced 'em fully. I like you mods, that's kewl that they're no cookie cutter type stuff you see a hundred thousand of per day. Very unique. Not a fan of Officer length frames, but who cares, right?! It works for you and it shows craftsmanship.

I never got the porting or comp idea on .45s either. I had a Tanfoglio that was a .45 commander set-up, full frame and shorter slide. It was factory ported. The only one I ever saw like that. Great gun, reliable and shot better than I could ask, It had a drift adjustable rear and a front machined into the slide. I was shocked it shot that well with those sights. Anyhoo. The ports were useless. I shot it with a standard barrel and a ported one. std pressure 230 grain ball to stank hot 180(185?)gr hollows. It fed everything well, but I never saw any difference on recoil. On the other hand, I have a GLOCK19c. I shoot that gun with +p+ rounds ALL THE TIME. Almost exclusively. I've run all types through it, but when compared to my cousin's G19, my 19c seems to shoot MUCH flatter in both our opinions. I've been told the higher the pressures(And fps as a result), that porting works more efficiently. I've never been able to anything more than a "seat of the pants" test, but I can see the logic. Da**, there I go again wondering off topic. Sorry, yall.

dondavis3 asked a good question. What's the status of BUL in USA right now? I'm an FFL, and wouldn't mind having a little more knowledge of their product line. I poked around a little online, and didn't see anything.
 
Old 10-28-2011, 03:01 AM   #17
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Buls were last imported by Daleys but they went belly up. The factory hasn't been very responsive in the last few years but there is some new management there who seem to be on the ball. I hope that they find another distributor for the US.
Sorry but I wouldn't try to import into the US. I did send one Bul but the cost is prohibitive.

I have to admit that I don't notice much recoil difference between this gun and a standard 5" 1911. When I remade the comp to allow for the Browning Highpower slide cut, I did consider not cutting the port in it but in the end did so just to perpetuate the theme as much as anything.

The gun that really suprises me is the little 3" one. The frame has an alloy insert instead of a steel one, so the gun is very light as well compact. The recoil is a little heavier than the bigger gun but no where near what I expected.

Peter
 
Old 10-28-2011, 05:26 AM   #18
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@ Peter Dawson

Thanks for your comments .. I understand about the import costs.

 
Old 10-29-2011, 06:47 AM   #19
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Yeah, I understand too. Seems to me the US would be the ultimate market for that pistol, though. Pretty much for any pistol, I guess. I suppose you have to have the demand to make it worth while for either party. I would have thought Australia would be a TOUGH market to crack, what with all the gun legislation flying around there in the last decade. Maybe the lefties pressing for a magazine capacity restriction again will drive up demand for our Country? I guess only time will tell. Anyone know what they tend to fetch on the used market?
 
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My wife paid around $800 for her's.

The price isn't a big problem ...

Finding one is the problem.

 
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