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Old 07-10-2002, 10:51 AM   #1
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Silver Bear 115gr. HPs

I ran 100 rounds of Silver Bear 115 grain Mak HPs through both of my Circle 10 maks the other day. So far this is the only loading either of these voracious pistols have ever choked on. I had a total of twelve FTF's between the two. Every one hung up on the feedramp. In each case all that was needed was a gentle nudge with my thumb to return the pistol to battery. I didn't have the forsesight to measure the cartridge oal before heading to the range. Accuracy at 25 yards was adequate but grouped aproxx. 8" high. At 15yds groups were centered and reasonably tight.
Recoil was fairly snappy but by no means too much.

I just love this fine little pistol!!

I still want one in 9mm Para. 8)
 
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Old 07-12-2002, 05:55 PM   #2
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uncleBS,
I believe the Silver Bear is a 120 gr bullet. I chronographed some last week and they averaged 978 fps.

They vary a lot in length. Some are so long that they hang up in the magazine. I had bought three boxes. I have taken the last box and have run the longest rounds through my seater so that they are the length of the shortest rounds. I haven't fired them yet.

I think the SB would be a good SD round in the MAK, but it also think they are just too much trouble.

Jerry
 
Old 07-15-2002, 07:39 AM   #3
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I don't know but, I'm fairly certain the box was marked 115 gr.
I trashed them on the way from the range. I'll pick up another box when I get the chance. If it is marked 115 gr I'll post a pic. I thought 115 was pretty heavy for that little case, 120 is even more impressive. I agree I thought they might make a great defense round. This is the only loading that has ever jammed, even, slightly, in either one of my Circle 10's.

No apparent magazine troubles, they hung just enough to stop on the feedramp. A gently nudge with my thumb was enough to clear the stoppage.
 
Old 08-01-2002, 10:57 AM   #4
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Jerry M

Sorry I don't know what I am talking about.
The ammo I was talking about is "Brown Bear" made in russia
115 jhp. The markings on the box indicate LVE, like the old " Green Box"
Novosibirsk loads. :lol:

I want a 9mmPara Makarov :wink:
 
Old 08-27-2002, 07:19 PM   #5
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For whatever the value, I didn't like the "snappy" recoil so I insstalled a 21# recoil spring. Later, I ran a box of Silver Bear HP 120g and some left over Wolf. A whole lot better. Makarov.com has the springs 15-17-19-21#.

Target-wise I did pretty good at 7 yds - about the same @ 15 yds. All ovber the board @ 25. My Bulgie has such a short front sight that I have trouble notching it. I found that holding at its base works a bit better, but I need a whole lot more experience @ 25 yds to close the groups. But then, a Mak is a close-in weapon, right?

2 cents.

-Andy

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Old 08-28-2002, 05:58 AM   #6
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I also use the Wolf extra power recoil spring. I have yet to have a problem using it even with some of the milder factory loads.

My circle 10's are dinner plate accurate at 25 yds in my hands. Not bad at all in my opinion. I don't claim to shoot 1"-2" groups with any of my handguns. They both close up significantly at 15 and closer. I have also concluded that the Makarov is fairly "close in weapon".

Great little pistol....I am feeling the urge for another, maybe an EG this time.

I recently ran another 100 rounds of Brown Bear through both of them. Same springs, same magazine etc., etc..... . This time a few almost jammed up but not quite. The slide just sort of hesitated then went into battery. Different lots? Quality control? Hell when I run out of my supply of non jamming Barnauls the next case I buy may jam worse than these BB's. Hard to tell. I just seems like this russian stuff is iffy at best!

No flames please! I was just sharing my opinion..........
 
Old 08-28-2002, 07:17 AM   #7
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I've heard that there are three different Russian outfits producing ammo under "Wolf". If so, this could easily account for "unQuality Control".

(Now the "insidious mind kicks in: Is it possible that flooding the US market with garbage ammo might be a precursor? Hmmm..... :evil:

-Andy
 
Old 01-01-2004, 03:55 PM   #8
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I just picked up two boxes of the Silver Bear 115g JHP's. Fired off one box the other day, no failures of any kind; very accurate. Mine likes them!
 
Old 01-01-2004, 05:33 PM   #9
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Hello. In the range report link below is some information on the 115-gr. Brown Bear JHP as well as how feeding problems were solved in two Maks:

http://www.pistolsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=14186

Best.
 
Old 03-28-2004, 05:21 AM   #10
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I have some Silver Bear 120 JHP rounds, and my Bulgarian Mak does not like them at the top of the magazine. They hang up on the feed ramp EVERY time. To get them to feed, I have to tap the bottom of the magazine.

Anyone have any suggestions??
 
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