|11-30-2005, 08:50 AM||#1|
Join Date: Jan 2002
P-14 fails to extract
The only trouble I've ever had with my 1994 all-steel P14.45 is lately a failure to extract with Winchester White Box ball. This never happened in years past.
Also, something else new is happening at the same time: the fired cases come out all sooty. All of them, not just the FTE's. I thought this may have something to do with the extraction problem -- as if the ammo is too low-pressure to seal the case against the chamber wall, letting all the soot blow back along the case and fouling the chamber, messing up extraction? I think I've heard this can happen.
I'll polish the chamber and see how it goes. Would much appreciate any advice. Thanks. adk
|11-30-2005, 09:00 AM||#2|
Join Date: Mar 2001
I would simply clean the chamber, before considering any polishing.
Suggest you also try a new recoil spring. There is a chance that your pistol is unlocking early due to a very worn (or broken) recoil spring. That could contribute to a lot of powder residue as well.
Or, you may simply have got a box of bad ammo. It does happen. I would try another type of ammo - or some White Box with a different lot number.
|11-30-2005, 09:30 AM||#3|
Join Date: Jan 2002
I've never changed the recoil spring after all these years and thousands of rounds. Nor have I ever changed the magazine springs. In fact, the gun is still completely stock, except for a flat steel mainspring housing I had installed. (I will clean that chamber and try some different ammo.)
Some questions --
-- Should I change the magazine springs too?
-- Where should I get the recoil spring? (And mag springs?)
-- Do you go through guns like this one to find the parts that
should be replaced, and do the work? Not a custom job. Just
a tuneup, I guess.
Thanks again. adk
|11-30-2005, 10:39 AM||#4|
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Tucson, AZ
I've replaced the springs on both my Para magazines and the recoil spring on the C6.45, which I bought used. The Carry 12 only has about 1,100 rounds through it, so I don't think it needs it yet.
You can get your springs here:
Brownell's also carries Para springs.
I ordered from Wolff's on a Monday and they were delivered on Wednesday. When I called, I just had to mention the gun and the lady knew the part numbers by heart. The same thing happened when I ordered for my Sigs. I like both Brownell's and Wolff, but I buy springs from Wolff whenever I need them,
|12-01-2005, 02:11 AM||#5|
Join Date: Sep 2002
Re: P-14 fails to extract
|01-26-2006, 12:07 PM||#7|
Join Date: Jun 2005
P-14 Not Extracting
Clean your gun first, then maybe get a gunsmith to check your extractor...could be you need a little more tension on it. I have a couple of P14's My old one has over 100,000 rounds thru it and while it looks a little ugly it keeps on running...
Another place for great info on your 1911 is Brian Eno's Forums.
|01-27-2006, 02:53 PM||#8|
Join Date: Jun 2002
1911 extractors "take a set" over time and gradually lose extractor tension. Measure the tension and make sure it's in the range of 15 - 20 ounces. Inspect the tip and hook for a sharp, square edge or the tip will "slip" the rim.
The stock Para extractor is cast metal. If that is what you have, dump it and get a good one. They don't cost that much and good extractors made from spring steel hold tension much better than cast ones.
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