Slow_but_sure

On a first visit to a local gun store, I tried a LDA 7.45 and was stunned by that trigger pull! It had a long, smooth pull with a genuine surprise break at the end.

On second visit (different LDA 7.54s), the trigger pulls were nothing like my first experience. For the first 80-90% of the pull the force was about 4 pounds. For the last 10%, the force doubled. There was no surprise about the break because I had to "tug" on the trigger to break it over.

On a third visit (different sotre, different guns), the results were like visit #2: big tug required at the end of a long trigger pull.

I won a 40%-off certificate on "any Para Ordnance pistol" that is burning a hole in my pocket. I'd like a LDA 7.45, like the first two, not like the secnod four.

So, Para experts: What's the deal here?

bountyhunter

My LDA 1640 (two years old) is more like the first one. I feel almost no resistance as I take up to the break point, then a sharp break of about 5# to fire. I have heard some of them have heavy triggers and they can be lightened by a Para smith. It requires changing the shape of the sear face. Bottom line as with any gun, fondle it carefully. If anything doesn't feel right, leave it for the next guy. You are probably seeing guns from the same batch of production units. Keep checking. You could also check Gunsamerica. I bought mine from them and saved about $100.

Slow_but_sure

Bountyhunter,

Thanks for the advice. I checked <www.gunsamerica.com>, wow!

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355sigfan

I prefer the 1911 they way its supposed to be with a single action pull. DAO guns are the work of the devil (I mean lawers). In all honesty the long pull while light slows and hinders fast accurate shooting.
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Dave Berryhill

There is a guy named Jerry Miculek who shoots DA revolvers kinda fast that might take exception to that remark.

355sigfan

Bob Mundan shoots Single action revolvers fast to. FUnny things is both are not competative against Rob Leatham. Compare apples to apples most people are not Jerry Miculek. He can do some wonderfull things with obsolete guns.
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SNAPCUT

Obsolete?

355sigfan

Yep revolvers are obsolete, outmoded, no longer the best choice for self defence. They have been for quite some time. Thats the reason the military and nearly every LEO force has dropped them.
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SNAPCUT

While I agree that there are better choices for certain circumstances, I would disagree that revolvers are obsolete. They still serve in many roles quite well. If the standard of efficiency is to be determined by the choices of military and police agencies, we are all in trouble! For what it is worth, I carry both an auto and a revolver daily, on and off duty.

bountyhunter

Regarding revolvers, you said:

"...Yep revolvers are obsolete, outmoded, no longer the best choice for self defence. Thats the reason the military and nearly every LEO force has dropped them. "

The first and second sentences are totally unrelated. Military and LEO weapons are not "self defense" weapons at all, they are for what is best in a fight with multiple assailants. Obviously, a higher capacity weapon is better suited there. Most self defense confrontations are settled within the first two shots (good or bad). IMO, mag capacity for personal defense weapons is a non issue, but simplicity of operation is paramount. The "point and pull" simplicity of a wheelgun is definitely an advantage in the brainlock world of a life-threatening scenario. Not having a safety to leave on is a big plus as well.

355sigfan

The first and second sentences are totally unrelated. Military and LEO weapons are not "self defense" weapons at all, they are for what is best in a fight with multiple assailants
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How do you figure. They are 100% related in case your not familar with polcie and military use of the pistol they use them as defensive weapons. They are not offenceive. Rifles, shotguns and sub guns are what we grab when we know were going to fight. Pistols are for the times were not expecting trouble just like a armed citizen. We chose autos because there a better weapon than the revolver that hit its peak in the 1890's.

Point and pull you say sounds like a glock no safety except the shooters brain and a trigger safety. Revolvers are harder to speed load and are a bear to tac load partialy spent rounds. Revolvers are harder to fire understress accuratley due to a heavy dao pull. Revolvers are harder to reload when your injuried and only have one hand to use. Revolvers are obsolete. You say capacity is a non issue. Did you know that criminals work with accomplices over 83% of the time. So if your a victim there is a strong chance your will be out numbered. Factor in handguns poor stopping power in general and the average persons poor hit ratio 6 rounds may go preaty quick. Also the average may be 2 or 3 rounds but the exceptions will kill ya.
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bountyhunter

OK, let me state it more clearly then: The typical scenario of a civilain defending himself in no way resembles the typical scenario of an LE or military person. The civ is likely facing a single intruder in his home who may or may not be armed with a knife or gun.

The LE will certainly be (at some point) faced with multiple assailants with high-cap weapons as will the MIL scenario. As I stated, most of the time, a civ encounter will be decided with two rounds. The rest of the capacity is just for looks. Police frequently get in fights where multiple rounds are fired, so high-cap is essential to their weapon.

355sigfan

Let me restate your wrong the average civ is likely to have multiple attackers not just one. Thats according to stats from the FBI.
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Dave Severns

Here we go again with the off-topic arguments. :evil: Take this crap someplace else. I'd suggest mydadsbiggerthanyourdad.com

bountyhunter

OK, for the sake of the moderator's request, I'll concede that all revolvers are useless for defense and totally obsolete. On to new business: I'll generously offer to buy any obsolete SW686, SW66, model 19 or model 10 in good condition and I'll even foolishly pay $100.