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Old 08-16-2016, 04:57 PM   #1
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I need help with a Tanfoglio

I have a nice TZ 75 made by Tanfoglio that does not have a front sight. The frame has 2 holes that the front sight is to be pinned into. the only thing I was told about the gun is that a "dual crimp tool" is needed to stake the sight in. But as I do not have a front sight, I am in a pickle. I really want to get this gun running. Can anyone out there help find the proper front sight and get it installed for me? Again, this is a very well built Tanfoglio that is probably 20+ years old, but in NIB condition, and I am very frustrated with the front sight situation. I have looked on every website I can think of, and most people I speak to have never even heard of it.
Please help.

Willy H.
 
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Old 08-17-2016, 05:27 PM   #2
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You have a problem.

This set up was used for the Millet front sights that had two tubes on the bottom that were crimped into the slide with a special tool that rolled the tubes over to form the crimp.

The problem is, Millet stopped production of the sights years ago and they are no longer available.
It's at least possible some isolated gun shop might have a couple laying around or one might turn up on Ebay or Gunbroker.com.
A lot of guns were drilled for the Millet two tube sights and now the owners are in a fix.

The other problem is, the Millet sights came in a number of heights, with several different colored inserts, and several different styles.
Happening to find the ONE that would fit your gun is unlikely.

Options:
1. Have a hole drilled in the slide between the two holes and buy a "blank"1911 type sight with a tenon on the bottom. Use a 1911 staking tool to stake that sight in place.
File it to shape and the correct height.
Finish it with Brownell's Dicrophane T4 cold blue. Unlike other cold blues T4 turns metal black, not blue, and is more durable.

Brownell's sell 1911 sights with tenons. You want a wide tenon as used by Colt today. The tenon on the bottom is wider and stronger then the old narrow tenon.

2. Have a sight made up with two tenons that fit the holes and stake both with a 1911 staking tool.

3 Have a new sight brazed on the slide.
This will destroy the finish so it'd have to be totally refinished.
Note that soft solder, including the 450 degree 3% "silver solder" sold in many stores will NOT hold a front sight on a pistol.
The type that will is the real silver braze that melts at temps over 1100 degrees.

In these options the new sight will at least partially cover the two original holes. Some of the holes may show around the new sight.

4. Have the holes Tig welded shut then either buy a 1911 tenon sight or have the slide machined for a dovetail type sight.
Again, the finish will need to be totally redone.

5. Buy a new slide from EAA.

I'm not sure what other options people have come up with to work around this.

Brownell's 1911 sights that might do:

http://www.brownells.com/handgun-par....aspx?psize=96

http://www.brownells.com/handgun-par....aspx?psize=96
Probably would have to file off the rear to remove the white dot after filing for height.

http://www.brownells.com/handgun-par....aspx?psize=96

There's a lot of pistol owners who are not happy with Millet for discontinuing the sights and leaving them high and dry.

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Old 08-18-2016, 01:02 PM   #3
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Are we talking about the same thing?
A Millett Dual Crimp sight is set into two rather large holes drilled straight down into the slide.

I have seen guns with a front sight blade pinned in by two horizontal pins. My CZ had one lateral pin until I had it dovetailed.

Novak will weld up the DC holes for $50, then dovetail in a regular sight at the usual price.
 
 
Old 08-19-2016, 04:13 AM   #4
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Thank you both for your help. I am glad I posted the question here

I think sending it off to Novak seems like the way to go.

Willy
 
Old 08-19-2016, 05:43 PM   #5
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At least you know it'll be done right, whatever they do.

Just note that if they weld the slide up, you'll have to have the slide refinished, unless they offer that service too.
 
Old 09-07-2016, 02:18 PM   #6
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Thanks for the responses. I called Novak, and they do not do welding at this time, and basically did not want to take on the project. And that is fine, but I am still left with the dilemma. Does anyone here know of aa custom gunsmith that would try to resolve this?
 
Old 09-07-2016, 05:03 PM   #7
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You might try Frank Glenn in Arizona.
He's best known as a Master Colt revolver pistolsmith but he "does it all".
He gets very high points for workmanship, price, and turnaround for work done for people on the Colt Forum.

Frank Glenn-Glenn Custom Complete Gunsmithing Service Glendale AZ

Another choice is Cylinder & Slide Shop.
Note that they are a world class custom shop so price is HIGH, and turnaround is SLOW.
However, workmanship is world class:

Cylinder & Slide Inc
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Old 09-07-2016, 06:13 PM   #8
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thank you very much for the info. I will email him.
 
Old 09-10-2016, 08:55 AM   #9
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Thanks again for the help.

I have an old friend who is a machinist/ shooter and who is familiar with the milett staked in sights. He is coming up- to visit next week and put it in for me.
I will post the install instructions, that will NOT include the necessity of using the dual crimp tool to be properly installed.
 
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