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Old 08-27-2002, 11:02 AM   #1
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Anyone got info on Michael Bay from Trident Precision Mach.?

Has anyone ever heard of this smith? I've been to his shop and like what I see, but was wanting more info before I have him work on my 1911. He told me he is an ex-Navy SEAL and apprenticed under the late great Swenson.
 
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Old 08-27-2002, 11:27 AM   #2
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That combo sounds suspicious in itself. You can at least check the Seal claim over at the wall of shame...
 
Old 08-27-2002, 11:54 AM   #3
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According to Mrs. Swenson there were -NO- apprentices including Wayne Novak, who was originally hired to finish thumb safeties, is what she told me recently in a phone call. If there was an apprentice, I suspect John Jardine is the only one that can claim that title and he makes a point not to. Irene Swenson was very involved in her husband's work and his records.

I am just relating what I was told first hand. Swenson did have a long connection to the SEAL community in Southern California but you have to realize Swenson stopped working almost 10 years ago now.

From the Trident web site:

"Master Gunsmith - Michael C. Bay - Former Navy SEAL, Class 125. Mike was trained by the late, great, Armand Swenson of Fallbrook, California and has been building custom guns for over 15 years.

General Manager - Kent Dillingham - Former Navy SEAL, Class 106. Kent has recently returned to the U.S. where he has been working in various countries in South America as a Corporate Security Manager and Security Instructor. "

With a long history of Swenson working for SEAL Team #5 and the other teams I suspect Swenson took any number of them under his wing.

My bet is Mr. Bay is the real deal, has mentioned a relationship that was important to him and turns out a damn nice gun. Hard to go wrong with that combination.
 
 
Old 08-27-2002, 12:41 PM   #4
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Note that no disrespect was intended but a lot of folks make the seal claim. With BUDS Class number and name that part at least is easy to check out. Dane gave some great insight into the Swenson connection.
 
Old 08-27-2002, 09:58 PM   #5
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No harm done, the SEAL creds are often claimed and sledom deserved in the gun community. If every guy I have met that claimed to be a SEAL or SF actually were, the US could deploy a whole new army......for what ever it would be worth :roll:

I invited Mr. Bay to drop the forum when he has time. I suspect with his background and customer base it'll be awhile. But I'd like to see some of his work posted here.
 
Old 08-27-2002, 11:57 PM   #6
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Cris,

I'm sure no disrepect was intended, but it is SEAL. I'm a former Navy Corpsman, can't help myself. 8)
 
Old 08-28-2002, 06:06 AM   #7
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I didn't mean to sound negative if anyone, especially Mr. Bay, took it that way. I just wanted to know a little more info about his work other than what I have seen. I was just wondering if any on this fourm owned some of his work and if they were pleased with it. So if I sounded cynical, I apologize, but that was not my intent. Thanks the the help guys!
 
Old 03-02-2013, 09:47 AM   #8
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Michael is my ex. He was a SEAL, did train with Swenson. I have met Irene years ago and she spoke of the time Mike spent with Armand. I don't know why she would tell any one otherwise.
He is no longer gunsmithing in Tulsa, but apparently has joined Bar Sto Precision Machine, now in Sturgis, SD. He does great work but is extremely slow. May be better with him working for someone other than himself...
 
Old 09-24-2013, 06:16 AM   #9
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Hi Virginia!

Hey there, it's John W. I lost track of you guys after I visited with you in Tulsa to finish up my gun back in 2006. I kept doing searches for you all, as well as Frogman 45, but to no avail. I'd touch base periodically with Duane in San Marcos, and even he hadn't heard from you all! Now I'm up in Alaska with Big Todd (We've both retired up here). Sorry to hear you guys split up, but it's good to finally run across a sign of you guys! Please send my regards to Mike if you talk to him, and of course to you as well.
Best Regards,
Wiz
 
Old 06-10-2014, 11:48 PM   #10
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Mike Bay is the real deal. I served with him when he was at 5. Phenomenal gunsmith when he sets his mind to it. However I agree with his ex-wife Virginia's last sentence in her post dated 2013.
 
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