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Old 07-23-2003, 05:32 PM   #1
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Dupont P5066 and Alcan Al-5

How about some recipes? I just got some hand-me down "Old " powder, some Dupont P-5066 and Alcan Al-5. As I understand, Al-5 may be like Unique, and both are no longer made. Does anyone have info on either powder or recipes for 45 acp and 38 spl. (if compatible?) ? Thanks boys!
 
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Old 07-24-2003, 04:58 AM   #2
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There are still folks shooting who maintain that P5066 is the best pistol powder made. I don't doubt it, I use 700X only because I keep it for 12 gauge.

From Handloader's Digest 1964
.45 ACP
185 gr JSWC + 4.2 gr P5066 = 655 fps 25 yd bullseye load?
185 gr JSWC + 5.8 gr P5066 = 1005 fps MAXIMUM
230 gr FMJ + 5.7 gr P5066 = 830 fps MAXIMUM

.38 Special
148 gr WC + 2.9 gr P5066 = 745 fps
158 gr LRN + 3.8 gr P5066 = 870 fps MAXIMUM
200 gr LRN + 3.5 gr P5066 = 770 fps MAXIMUM

From Speer No 9
.45 ACP
200 gr SWC + 6.0 gr AL5 = 749 fps
200 gr SWC + 6.5 gr AL5 = 799 fps
Don't know if that is maximum, Speer doesn't push this swaged bullet much over 800 fps with anything. See...

200 gr JHP + 7.9 gr AL5 = 889 fps
200 gr JHP + 8.5 gr AL5 = 965 fps MAXIMUM
225 gr JHP + 7.9 gr AL5 = 859 fps
225 gr JHP + 8.5 gr AL5 = 918 fps MAXIMUM
Double check... yup, same loads for 200 and 225 gr JHPs.

.38 Special
148 gr BBWC + 4.9 gr AL5 = 835 fps
148 gr BBWC + 5.5 gr AL5 = 928 fps MAXIMUM
No loads shown for HBWC

158 gr SWC + 5.1 gr AL5 = 840 fps
158 gr SWC + 5.5 gr AL5 = 901 fps MAXIMUM

125 gr JHP + 6.3 gr AL5 = 1004 fps
125 gr JHP + 6.6 gr AL5 = 1054 fps MAXIMUM

158 gr JSP + 5.7 gr AL5 = 840 fps
158 gr JSP + 6.2 gr AL5 = 906 fps MAXIMUM

They had loads for 110, 140, 146 and 160 grain jacketed, let me know if you want to load those and I will post data.
 
Old 07-24-2003, 10:42 PM   #3
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Thanks Jim! I knew someone had some data. The data provided is good, I hope to try some of this powder soon, if only I could burn thru more of the W231 I have stored first. Thanks Again...
 
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