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Old 01-22-2004, 03:01 PM   #1
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Power Pistol and 45ACP

Do any of you have some load data you could give out for the Golden Saber (185gr) bullets and Alliant Power Pistol powder? I would like to work up some standard and +P loads if you have some info it would help very much.
 
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Old 01-22-2004, 10:09 PM   #2
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Post subject: Power Pistol and 45ACP

Hello,

Alliant give the following load data:

45 ACP, 185 JHP, 8.6 grains PP, 1025 fps, 18,900 psi
45 ACP +P, 185 JHP, 9.1 gr. PP, 1075 fps, 21700 psi

The shooters posting loads on www.loadyourown.com give the following loads:

45 ACP, 185 Golder Saber, CCI Large Pistol, COL 1.21, 9.5 grains Power Pistol, 1150 fps, Kimber Classic: Notes: Same velocity that Remington gives for their +P Golder Saber.

45 ACP, 185 Gold Dot, Fed 150, COL 1.27, 9.8 grains Power Pistol, 1125 fps, HK USPf, Starline 45 Super Brass: Notes: Stout load for a stout gun.

Note that both of the LoadYourOwn loads are substantially higher than those given by Alliant and may not work in your pistol. You should cautiously work your way up to them from below the 8.6 grain maximum given by Alliant.

Hope this helps,

MaxTMDK
 
Old 01-23-2004, 09:08 AM   #3
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I have use the alliant data above before with power pistol, and have had excellent results. I would caution you not to use federal 150 primers like the alliant manual calls for. It has been my experience that the cups on the 150's are too soft for the +p loads.

good luck,
Dan
 
Old 01-24-2004, 06:38 AM   #4
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Thank You

I've loaded rifle ammunition for about 15 years..but handgun reloading is very new. I think it would be wise for me to get some reload manuals for the handguns. Power Pistol is not listed in any of my manuals!

One more question, if I could. I have some nickle plated 45+P brass (Remington) and I have been told that the web in the case is thicker which will not allow the same volume of powder. So in what step of the increase of powder should I start using the +P brass? Volume and OAL seems to be much less forgiving in handgun reloading.


Thanks Again!
 
Old 01-24-2004, 06:53 AM   #5
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HB65,
You can got to alliant's web page http://www.alliantpowder.com/ and check out their load data and download their load book.

As for there being less volume in the 45+p cases if you are starting your charges at -10% and working up you shouldn't have any problems.

My current walk in the woods load is a 240gr JHP over 7.1 gr power pistol in remington 45+p nickle cases. no pressure problems but some pretty good recoil in a 5in 1911. ps you should see these things put down steel plates :lol:
 
Old 01-24-2004, 08:34 AM   #6
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Thanks for not jumping down my throat on that last question. Work up the standard loads and THEN work up the +P loads. I can't believe I have been tossing that question around in this weak brain of mine..DAH. Perhaps that caution of shooting in well ventilated areas and handling lead has some validity.
 
Old 01-24-2004, 05:21 PM   #7
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A quick check through my references showed only the one by Alliant. Dan Burwell gave you the source. Hodgon has it listed in their manual, but it is only a repeat of what Alliant published. It's too bad that other companies have not published loads for it. I have found it to be an excellent powder, and I settled on it as my first preference for my 10 mm.

MaxTMDK
 
Old 01-27-2004, 03:59 PM   #8
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Thanks so much for the information. I have loaded up some reloads for the "standard" rounds that I hope to try soon. The +P rounds will have to wait..North East Ohio is getting swamped in ice..may have a chance to reload some +P ammo this week.
 
Old 01-28-2004, 04:49 PM   #9
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If you get a chance, post your results. I'm always interested in load data.

Thanks,

MaxTMDK
 
Old 01-29-2004, 12:41 AM   #10
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I could not get to the range to test any of the reloads do to the ice storms and snow. looks like paying for the indoor range might just happen..been holding out on spending that cash, if you know what I mean. I like to take my time on firing the test loads and $10.00 an hour for the indoor range would dig into the pocket a bit at this time.
 
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