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Old 01-30-2002, 06:33 AM   #1
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Gonna get one of these, which do you all think is the better choice.
 
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Old 01-30-2002, 11:32 AM   #2
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I have no experience with Hornady presses, but I can heartily recommend Dillon stuff. Quality and great customer service.
 
Old 01-30-2002, 01:48 PM   #3
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I am surely slanted as I have used Dillons since they were first out, choose.........DILLON!
Their seldom needed customer service is first rate and the products are the same. I have a 550B and couldn't be happier. I load for several calibers and really haven't replaced anything if ten years. I have no idea what the price difference between the two is but I can surely state that the 550B is bulletproof, and produces great reloads.

One recommendation.......buy the DILLON dies, they work better than say standard RCBS dies. They are made for a progressive.

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Old 01-30-2002, 06:32 PM   #4
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Thanks Pete and Frank
 
Old 01-30-2002, 08:39 PM   #5
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Buy a Dillon! I have a 650 and would definitely recommend it. You can see pics of my press with my homemade solution to the electric casefeeder at the www. below.
Also at the tread below that I posted titled "Poor Mans Casefeeder"
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Old 01-30-2002, 08:57 PM   #6
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DILLON!

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Old 01-30-2002, 09:17 PM   #7
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I have a Hornady Pro-Jector, which I believe is the predecessor of the Loc& Load. My next progressive will be a Dillon. The Hornady leaves MUCH to be desired.


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Old 01-30-2002, 10:19 PM   #8
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I've had both the Hornadys and the dillon 550. Both have great service. I sold my dillon and now have two Loc'n Loads. NO Regrets. It has a case activated powder drop and an extra station for a taper crimp.
 
Old 01-31-2002, 09:06 AM   #9
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jm10mm, what was it about the Dillon 550 you did not like ?
 
Old 01-31-2002, 04:11 PM   #10
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I can't talk about the press but I can tell you I like the Lock N Load bushings. I use them on my RCBS press. They allow me to change dies very quickly! The only thing I don't like about them is there should be a set screw on the bushings and a better way to screw the adapter into the press would be nice as well. But overall I have been very pleased with them.
 
Old 02-01-2002, 10:03 PM   #11
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Neal, I think the hornady is built better and I like the auto-indexing. With the bushings I can change to any caliber in a couple minutes and the case activated powder drop is great. The lower half of the powder drop is available for like 8.00 so you can set up a few of them for different length cases. Its also harder to misplace a shell plate than brass buttons. I did like the primer fill system on the Dillon better so I adapted it to the Hornady. Overall the Hornady has a better price counting accessories and caliber change sets.
 
Old 02-02-2002, 08:26 AM   #12
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I had this same dilema last year, blue or red. Everybody I talked to who had a 550 or a 650 said the same thing, great machines, can make lots of good ammo fast. They also said once they are set, they did not want to mess with them. I went with the LNL AP.

I have been playing with 10mm lately. To come up with a variety of powder weights, I just remove all the dies but the powder measure. Cycle several cases through to get the weight I want, put the dies back in, and load them up. Take the dies out to move to another powder weight.

What is the strength of the LNL, the bushings. The press can act like a single stage, a turrent press, or an auto-progressive, just by what you want to do.

Is it perfect, no. I have had a couple of problems with mine. One, it would not always feed the last one or two primers out of the tube. Used a wooden dowel long enough to mark where the tube would be empty. The added weight of the dowell made feeding better and I could tell visually when I was about to be out of primers. The second is the primer seating pin. I just can not keep it tight. When it gets loose, I can tell by how pressure it takes to seat a primer, I have to retighten it. It happens about every 40 to 60 rounds.

I use Hornady dies, they are just fine by me. Since I load only for pistols at the moment, I added the pistol metering unit to my powder measure. It's very consistent.

I am not into making a 1000 rounds an hour. If I was, I would have gone with the 650. The LNL AP is more suited to what I want to accomplish.

From a cost standpoint, the LNL AP and the 550 are the same. They are both real good machines and will last a lifetime. Warranties are not an issue, Hornady stands by theirs just like Dillon does.

Just my $0.02.
 
Old 02-02-2002, 01:13 PM   #13
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I personally went green, with an RCBS Pro 2000. It is manual indexing, but is very fast inspite of this. I average about 600 rounds an hour no problem. The strip feeder for the primers is top notch and you always know how many primers you have in the machine, and how many rounds you have loaded. As well calibre change over is very easy, quicker than a Dillon (not sure about the LNL), the powder measure has a similar system on it as the Hornady. It will only throw powder when there is a case present. The powder measure also has the micrometer metering screw, and I can change powders,weights and all that then throw in my 231, dial in 1-30 and it is 4.8 grs dead on 9 times out of 10. Changing the shell plate takes about 30 seconds, and if needed changing the primer seating punch takes about the same or less. I can change calibres, incuding resetting my powder weight in about 1 minute or so. Cost a lot less than the 550

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Old 02-02-2002, 07:39 PM   #14
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Another vote for the RCBS PRO 2000. It's a relatively new press with little coverage, however, the improvements in design are present over either of the two older designs. I've used all three and prefer the RCBS unit. Subtle differences that add up. Regards, Matt.
 
Old 02-03-2002, 08:47 AM   #15
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You hear a lot about the Dillon Staff. I just would like to pass on that the staff at Hornady treated me right. I lost the small pistol primer seat on my single stage press and they shipped me a new one right out. This press is at least 20 years old.

I am in the market for a progressive press now and I am leaning toward the Hornady LNL.

10 years ago I was in Scotsdale and I visited the Dillon store. Very nice people. I am just not certain that I want to have to buy a kit for each caliber. Might not be A BIG deal if I only shot one caliber.
 
Old 02-03-2002, 10:42 AM   #16
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John I use a piece of 1/8 welding rod to keep the weight on my primers. Hornady also has an update on the primer pin nut, mine has yet to come loose on either of my machines with over 1000 rounds on each. My powder measure is micrometer and you just record the settings on each charge. Also I have different lowers for the case activated system for each length case. They were about 8.00 each.
 
Old 02-05-2002, 09:50 AM   #17
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I bought a Hornady Lock-n-Load about a year ago, and couldn't be happier with my choice. This was my first experience reloading, and I didn't have anyone help me set the press up or show me how to reload. Fortunately, I've only had one problem (a squib load), and that was due to my own carelessness. I was inundated with advice to buy a Dillon, but after actually seeing one, I was a little intimidated by its complexity relative to the Hornady. I have found the micrometer pistol measure to be amazingly consistent with Titegroup, Bullseye, and AA #5, and VV 310. For some reason, I have a hard time dialing in the precise amount of Clays I want, although once it's set, it's pretty consistent. I like the auto-advance feature, and the lock-n-load bushings are great. I'm using a Lee factory crimp die in station 5, and its body is too thick to allow using the wire ejector that's supposed to kick out finished cartridges. This is only a minor annoyance. And, I use a dowel rod in the primer tube as a "need to add primers" indicator. Anyway, bottom line: if I had to do it all over again, I'd still go for the Hornady.

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Old 02-05-2002, 04:09 PM   #18
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Old 02-05-2002, 09:30 PM   #19
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Searcher,

Have you gave any consideration to the Lee Loadmaster? I just set one up today! Looks pretty cool. I will be running it through it's paces this weekend.

John
 
Old 02-06-2002, 06:35 AM   #20
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That's what I now have. Found it a bit difficult to change calibers. Decided to get something a bit faster in caliber changes for my birthday.
 
Old 02-06-2002, 10:50 AM   #21
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Anyone care to comment on how quickly/easier it is to change out the primer feed from lg. to sm. on the LnL compared to Dillon's 550?

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Old 02-06-2002, 02:49 PM   #22
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Well to change primers on the RCBS Pro 2000 is real simple. Change the primer seating plug by unscrewing it (which taks about 10 or 15 seconds) and then screw in the new one (large or small depending on what you need), again this takes only a few seconds. Then once you start your reloading you insert the proper strip with your primers in it. The only difference between the large and small primer strips are the holes that hold the primers.

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Old 02-06-2002, 10:47 PM   #23
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searcher,
Sorry for the incorrect e-mail address. Try me at mattinvaus@yahoo.com . Will be happy to help you any way I can. Regards, Matt.
 
Old 02-12-2002, 10:54 AM   #24
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Well I went and did it. I ordered the RCBS 2000 today. Hope I didn't make a mistake.
 
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I am fairly confident that you will like your press. when you get it email me and I will walk you through a couple of tricky steps that I had problems with, nothing major, but it will make all the difference in the end.

rob
 
Old 02-12-2002, 11:18 AM   #26
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Thanks, I will do that.
 
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