Tim Williams

Folks, if it shoots, if its reliable, I personally don't care if they are getting
their parts from someone else. So what!

Its not going to be the same pistol as Dane, Ted, Ned or a host of other PistolSmiths would put together. Its also not going to cost as much either.
If I had another $2000-$3000 available I would be having one of these guys build me one.

EJR

I think one of the important things about the Sig 1911 is that Sig's concept is good. Put together a 1911 out of quality parts, with no MIM and try and sell it for around $1000! If you search around the different forums you can find out who most of the guys involved in it are, and they are all top notch guys, with good products. I think Sig had got a good idea whether it works out the way they hope will take time. I would buy one if I was looking for another 1911. Especially if it is offered in 9x23, or 38 super, or 10mm.

And concidering everyone and their brother is making 1911's there is certainly a lot of options for those who don't like the gun. Yeah it looks different but most of the people on this forum and others are into 1911's that have been highly modified either for looks or performance. And you read a lot of posts about guys how buy a brand new Kimber, and then start swaping out the MIM parts. It would be nice to buy a 1911 that you can feel cofident in the parts that come "WITH" the gun!

Just my 2 cents.

Ed

Bob Buffa

Well, I had to jump in here. I handled, examined, and shot a GSR today. IMHO, it is nowhere as nice as a standard Kimber.

Oh the barrel/slide fit is good (about as good as a standard Kimber) and the thick bushing fits nicely. The slide/frame fit is about as good as a 70's vintage Gold Cup (which is to say, about 70% of any kimber rolling of the lines now) I didn't get a chance to measure it, but the play, slop, tolerance, whatever, felt about 4/1000. OK but certainly not state of the art. If that is the best they can do "hand lapping" they need a new lapper.

Cast parts galore, with obvious flash marks, rough edges, sharp corners, and poor angles.They did not even look finish machined. BTW, this was a production gun, not a "pre production prototype". The grip safety is that god-awful rigded thing from the Colt series 90 guns, the thumb safety and mag release appear to be Masen parts, and the slide stop (Greider or not) is a rough casting. None of these parts, IMHO, belong on a $1,000 gun.

The "Tactical rail" (for the "shoot right here" light?) is here to stay folks, as silly as many feel it is. The problem , IMHO, is holster fit, and how many folks will get shot by the bad guy aiming at the light?

I saw voids and bubbles in the frame on the one I examined. The trigger pull was acceptable at best, not one of Sigs best efforts.
Novak sights and magazine (looks like a good mag, built by ACT-Mag in Italy. We'll see if it is as good as the Cobra Mags)

It shot ok, about 2" at 25 yards for the 10 shots I got to shoot. Again, not great, but ok.

All in all, a big disappointment. I expected much better from Sig. There are quite a few guns in Kimbers stable alone at that price point that I would recommend instead, and quite a few "parts guns" that could be built to a higher standard for a grand, especially using cast frames and slides. (secret memo, ...Pine Tree casting (aka Ruger) will cast you a 1911 frame for under a hundred bucks if you buy enough)

One good thing, it is worlds better than that new Para single stack. Dreck.

Bob, just when I thought you weren't around anymore, nice to see you posting again. Still like the Kimbers eh'....Glad to see you haven't waivered in your opinions. I have to agree on the Sig, I thought I would be a little more impressed.

Jeffro

I resent a company saying that if you want one of OUR firearms, you WILL take the tactical rail................. PERIOD. But I feel that is typical of how SIG thinks....... that seems to be their mentality on many issues.
Just muy opinion
Best to all,
Jeffro (Jeff)

shooter505

I have had a stainless GSR for about a month now and have fired about 500 rounds through it. This is my take on the GSR. First off I like the SIG look on this handgun but I do think that Sig could have finished the gun much better. There are machine marks on several locations that should have been removed and finished much better. I like the tact rail and it works well with my Surefire X200. I like the extra weight of the rail and the feel and balance that the rail gives too the pistol. At this time holster selection is rather limited for the railed 1911 pistol.

This is a very accurate pistol. At 25 yards I can get 1.5 inch groups with my own hand-loads and around a 2 inch group with Gold Dot 230 gr loads. Hydra-Shock 230gr. yielded a 2.25 inch group at 25 yds. which is odd to me since I usually get the best accuracy from the Hydra-Shock. I did have to open the chamber up on this barrel. It was a very tight match chamber that would not chamber some of my reloads that would chamber in all of my other 45's. IMHO a pistol that is to be used as a duty pistol or for self-defense should not have a match chamber and a chamber this tight is for sure not good. After opening the chamber up the GSR and Novak magazines fed all rounds (JHP,FN and SWC) without any problems at this point.

The trigger started out at around 6.5lbs and after a new Wolf spring and some sear work it breaks crisp and clean at about 4lbs. I do have a problem with the grip safety on this GSR. It has a triangle shaped memory bump on it that causes some major problems. I have small hands (ya I know what you are thinking but I do have average size feet) and if I leave my thumb on the thumb safety shelf I sometimes can not engage the grip safety. Personally I like the Ed Brown type grip or the big Kimber type. This triangle grip safety is not wide enough for positive engagement and it looks very odd. This grip safety needs to be changed!

The overall fit of this pistol is very tight. The slide rails are nice and tight and the barrel bushing is very tight. The internal parts are well fitted with no problems at this point. Dealer cost on this pistol is around 800.00 It is still to early for me to decide if this pistol is a keeper.

uspsamaster

handled a new production gsr today though not for long (I started finding problems and the gun soon disapeared back to where it came) I found that the fit on the grip safety was wrong ( couldn't depress the safety with the hammer, I know minor but still wrong expessialy for a 1000$ gun) and the grip was not shaped right causeing it to crack when it was screwed down. other small quality control issues, if they fix them I may still get one but probably not (besides I am still hopeing for a h&k 1911)

legrena

Ok. I just found what I was looking for! Serious feedback folks! Thanks!

Jim Richardson

The GSR is the first offeering of the Granite Series. There will be models without rails.

mmike87

Companies always have a target market when they introduce any product. You are obviously not part of the target market at this time. I don't think there is anything to resent.

If you ARE interested in a non-rail Granite Series, I would suggest you E-mail Paul Ernhardt who is the marketing guy at SIGARMS and nicely let him know your interest in such a gun. He'll probably respond personally to you - he has to my questions in the past.

I highly doubt that SIGARMS will refuse to make a non-rail version if they feel they can make money off it. That would't make sense. Plus, like has already been stated - the name Granite Series implies that there will be more guns in the future.

spcwes

They have already said that there are future models to include a commander model and a model without a rail. This was just the first. Give em a little more time.

tthiel

Alot of people including me are mystified by that grip safety. Just put a speed bump on the bottom..sheesh. An awful ot of people on the Sog forum have replacved the grip safety. You would think that would tell Sog something. Those orange grips are goofy to but at least they are easily replaced. I don't understand why this pistol is so poorly finsihed when "normal" Sigs are so well made.

tthiel

Alot of people including me are mystified by that grip safety. Just put a speed bump on the bottom..sheesh. An awful of of people on the Sog forum have replaced the grip safety. You would think that would tell Sig something. Those orange grips are goofy too but at least they are easily replaced. I don't understand why this pistol is so poorly finished when "normal" Sigs are so well made.

Bob Buffa

John Masen must have had a lot of those Series 90 grip safetys left over from Colts 3rd bankruptcy, and gave Sig a good deal on them. That is the ONLY reason I can think of for using them
Seriously, the Sig fits together nicely enough, but I can't get past the low-end parts, the sharp edges, and the cast frame and slide. To each his own, I guess. That is why they make chocolate and vanilla.