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Old 11-18-2002, 05:18 AM   #1
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solving High Standard and Ruger problems

Id be very happy to answer questions on problems you have with Hi Std pistrols, or Ruger Mk 1 and 11 Austin
 
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Old 11-18-2002, 08:52 PM   #2
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Great to see you on the forum.
I have located one of your guns here in Dallas Colt 1911 45 5 inch with
6 inch barrel. The gun store currently wants approx 1500.00 for it. The gun looks almost new. Wish I had the money.
The reason I responded to the post is that I have a High Standard that jams on almost every shot.
The bullet jams nose up going into the barrel or will go into the barrel but the slide will not close and when I close the slide it his pretty hard to push the slide closed. I have purchased a 2nd mag and still problems. I have pinched the lips of the mag to .230 for the front lips and 185 for the rear per the mag spec on the High Standard's web page. Still problems any suggestions.
Thanks so much TJ.
 
Old 11-19-2002, 09:11 AM   #3
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Hi tj, Your problem is usually simple to cure When you insert a round and the rim goes under the lips real easy they are too loose. Never bend the front vertical lips asthey only point the round in the right direction. To proove the point load 5 rounds and slowly lower the slide. The lead nose probably hits the top of the chamber and you are going to shave lead making it hard to close the slide.With a small hammer tap the front bent over lips slightly. Try putting in a round and if you have a bit of interference you may have solved the problem. If the rim willnot go under you hit it too hard. Bend them up very slightly with long nose pliers. Also be .sure that you have a very slight champher at the bottomof the chamber so you dont shave lead their too. Working on pistols behind the line for at least 35 years was a great eduacation and taught me how to not only solve the problem but do it fast as the guy may be on the next relay
 
 
Old 11-19-2002, 10:35 AM   #4
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Thanks for the info. I'm not much of a pistolsmith but I think I understand but please go over the bent lips in more detail. At the suggestion of other people I have used a set of pliers and closed the front lips to the suggest opening of .230 (slightly larger than the 22 bullet). When I go to load the mag the rear part of the bullet (rim) binds a little going into the mag. I fact I have to push the bullet in with my fingers. Could this be the problem? Is the mag to tight to allow the slide to pick the bullet out of the mag? I have another high standards 103 with the barrel weights and it's mag appears to have much more play and the bullets drop into the mag vs sticking.
Again Thanks for your help. At this point I about ready to throw the gun down range to the target.

TJ.
 
Old 11-19-2002, 12:30 PM   #5
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Hi tj, sounds to me like you squeezed the mag at the lips. Once the round passes into the mag it should be fairly loose. Only tap straight down on top front of the lips. Did you try letting the slide down slow to see where the bullet is heading? If you still have trouble send me one mag and I will form it no charge so you can see it correctly.
Many , many times I set up next to Bob Shea Hi Stds top sssmith and we wo
..uld race each other solving problems. It was educational and always fun one of these days Ill tell some very funny stories about those good ole days
 
Old 11-19-2002, 07:31 PM   #6
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I tried the repair you suggested. I'm still having problems. The bullet will chamber about 1/2 to 3/4s. I can not tell where it is shaving lead. However, while testing the barrel was shaving the bullet around the ring next to the brass case. The bullet would chamber sometimes when I pulled the slide all the way to the rear past the slide stop. From the slide stop the bullet never chambered. Is it possible that the spring is weak?

Thanks
TJ.
 
Old 11-20-2002, 08:41 AM   #7
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Hi tj, I doubt if its a weak recoil spring. If it were you would be able to push it closed with your little finger, it wouldnt close hard. Send me one mag. My address is austin behlert P>O>Box 133 Pipersville, Pa 18947 Let me haave a look.
 
Old 11-21-2002, 07:00 PM   #8
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Sorry I have responded but I have been out of town on business.
Thanks for all the help and taking the time to offer your services. I will send the mag to you ASAP.
 
Old 12-06-2002, 12:30 PM   #9
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Hi Austin. It's an honor to have you here answering questions and remembering the good ole days. Thank you.

I have a problem with a custom High Standard Sport King. I bought this used at a gun show several years ago (you can see more under the topic Adams Custom High Standard?) http://www.pistolsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=14381

This particular gun misfires on almost half of all shots. I have tried every kind of .22 ammunition under the sun from cheap to expensive. I suspect, and hopefully am wrong, that the gun had been extensively dry fired. I brought it to one gun shop who said that the chamber was damaged from dry firing and that it would need a new barrel. This gun has an 8-1/2" heavy barrel with vent rib that I'd hate to replace.

I know it's difficult to diagnose probelms long distance, but thanks for trying!
 
Old 12-06-2002, 01:37 PM   #10
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Hi Std Sportking

bigflax, Sometimes its tough by long didtence but lets give it a try. Load a round as you normally do and when the slide goes down see if there is a gap between the face of the slide and barrel? If there is you may have a week recoil spring. Next , if you push the slide closed and it comes back open its the extractornose.?At one time Hi Std had trouble with the design of the extractor. If the nose of the extractor has a radius it could be the problem.File a small flat from the hook back about 1/8 inch. This usually happens in cconjunction with a week recoil spring . Now back to the barrel.If the slide is tight against the barrel look for a firing pin dent in the barrel right next to the chamber. If there is , you are cushuning the hammer fall at that point. In other words the cartridge isnt setting against solid steel. At one time the firing pin stretched from dryfiring or the pin was broken and replaced. I dont want to go too far too fast so try the above and let me know. Be sure to watch the slide to barrel contact each time as this is important
 
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