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Old 07-07-2004, 06:20 AM   #1
 
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.38 super extractor

Gentlemen:

Does anyone know what are the proper dimensions of the .38 super extractor? Kuhnhausen’s book only lists .45 ACP.

Thanks
 
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Old 07-07-2004, 02:12 PM   #2
 
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The Super extractor hook is a little narrower...about .150 inch wide. Not sure of the length from the bottom of the slot to the tip. The center pad..or the dog knot...is reduced or absent on the inside, depending on
the manufacturer. I've seen'em both ways, but it's a noticeable difference on the reduced ones. Seems like there's also a difference in the length from the breechface to the backside of the hook, but don't hold me to that. Some difference in the front angle on the hook too, I think I don't fool with many .38 Super/9mm 1911s, so my memory may be a little dim. Hope this helps...

JT
 
Old 07-08-2004, 04:43 AM   #3
 
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JT:

Thanks for your reply. My new Dan Wesson has many FTF’s. I’m trying a few replacement extractors but they are all a bit different. Would you happen to know where I could find out the “standard” dimensions?

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Old 07-08-2004, 04:53 AM   #4
 
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Many FTFs

Howdy,

Failure to feed comes in a few different flavors, some of which aren't extractor related. Describe the problem(s) in detail.

Top round or last round? Part-way into the chamber or stopped at the
ramp/throat junction? If part-way in...can you put the slide into battery
with a push or bump...or do you have to eject the jammed round and start over? Chamber clean?

Standin' by...(back in an hour)

JT
 
Old 07-08-2004, 05:56 AM   #5
 
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J.T.

It happens with the first round. It is usually gets stuck at approximately 20 degree angle to the axis of the barrel. I can’t push the slide into battery. After clearing the jam, it more often than not happens again.

When I attempted to remove the extractor, the hook would get stuck on the recoil face. I had to push the hook into the extractor canal with the soft punch so that I can remove it.

Thanks for your help.
 
Old 07-08-2004, 06:08 AM   #6
 
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Process of Elimination

Okay...Take the extractor out and see if the jam occurs without the extractor. If it doesn't, hold the extractor up to a light and engage a case rim with the hook. Look to see if the tip of the hook touches the case in
front of the rim. If it doesn't, take a little tension off the extractor and
see if that helps.

If the jam occurs with the extractor out, it's another problem. First
suspect is the magazine, and probably a weak spring. Try to borrow
a known good magazine. Meanwhile, proceed to...

Look to see if the bottom of the throat is flush with the top of the feed ramp. The throat's bottom edge should sit slightly forward of the top
of the ramp. About a 32nd inch for .45, and likely about the same for
.38 Super/9mm.

Check to see if the barrel is riding the link. Swing the link forward so that the slidestop pin hole is lined up with the centerline of the bottom barrel
lug's radius. If the slidestop pin was through the link...would it lightly
touch the lug...or would it be held off the lug by more than about the thickness of a sheet of typing paper? It should touch lightly, and the pin
should follow the shape of the lug all the way into battery.

If the barrel rides the link around the radius, it will cause the barrel to
rise too abruptly, and can contribute to your stoppage, though that may not be the sole cause.

Standin' by...

JT
 
Old 07-08-2004, 06:23 AM   #7
 
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J.T.

I'll try it as soon as I get home. Can't have guns at work.
 
Old 07-08-2004, 03:42 PM   #8
 
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JT:

Finally made it home and looked at the gun.

Fist, the gun feeds well without the extractor with the same mags (Shooting Star). Next, the bottom link. I inserted the slide top pin and moved it around. Just a hair away from the outside radius of the lug.

When fully engaged, the front of the hook doesn’t touch the case. Ergo, it must be the extractor tension. I just received Weigand’s tool in the mail! I’m gonna try it this weekend.

Thanks for your help!
 
Old 08-03-2004, 05:20 PM   #9
 
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JT:

After all it wasn’t an extractor problem. I tuned the extractor as well as I could and still had problems feeding. So, I took the gun to some one who knows way more than I. After a careful examination, he found out that the breach face dimensions were very close to the cartridge rim. The top and the bottom measurements were the same. He then widened the clearance of a breach face on the extractor tunnel side by 0.001. that solved the problem.
 
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