speer aluminum ammo

STEVEN 1911-KIM · 03-02-2003, 12:31 PM

JUST WONDERING IF I COULD USE WOLF AMMO IN MY KIMBER,SPRINGFIELD,AND GLOCKS?

THANK YOU
STEVE

Ron Kontowsky · 03-03-2003, 06:24 AM

Yes I know it`s cheap to shoot ! But over doing with this stuff will aid in wear in feed ramp and chamber, also it is coated with a nasty laquer finish that tend to gum up in hot chambers, making cleaning more difficult, and you will never realize the weapons accuracy with the cheap ammo!

So personally I stay clear of the stuff!

RON KONTOWSKY
DEANS GUNSHOP II

groupguy · 03-20-2003, 05:49 PM

I've never had luck with the Wolf pistol ammo in any of my .45s. Wolf rifle rounds work great but the pistol rounds don't.

I have shot thousands of rounds of CCI Blazer .45s in and have only had one round that didn't work, the case that didn't have a primer in it. Noticed it before I loaded though as powder was coming out of the primer hole. Not bad for about 5,000 rounds. I normally shoot S&B and keep the brass but my indoor range kind of frowns at brass picking so I leave them my Berdan primed aluminum cased CCI Blazer.

stansdds · 03-21-2003, 04:01 AM

Wolf ammo is dirty and evidently the laquer coating on the case will build up in the chambe and cause feeding and extraction problems. Blazer ammo is usually pretty clean and does not leave a coating in the chamber. Given a choice between the two, I would take the Blazer ammo.

Mute · 03-21-2003, 07:18 AM

Wolf ammo is dirty as hell. I had shot some awhile back. Function wasn't a problem, but my magazines had rusting on them after about one week. I'm not usually in the habit of cleaning my mags after going to the range.

Blazer works just fine and much cleaner than Wolf.

DISTINGUISHED PISTOL SHOT · 04-18-2003, 11:57 PM

In my experience, Wolf is terrible ammo and should be avoided. I once bought many cases of it in 9MM, shot a couple boxes, had pierced primers and "blow-backs" (remember to wear eye protection) and returned every remaining box. You get what you pay for people!

The CCI/Speer Blazer ammo is quality low cost ammo and I shoot it whenever it is cheap enough or when I am not going to pick-up brass. For those that do not reload - it is an excellent choice.

Ned Christiansen · 05-08-2003, 04:13 AM

Check this thread:
http://www.pistolsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=13268

and:
http://www.pistolsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=2375

moxie · 10-02-2003, 12:29 PM

Blazer yes, great stuff, Wolf no. Steel cases and jackets bad, IMHO.

Carlos · 10-08-2003, 01:04 PM

Blazer - outstanding factory ammo w/ very clean powder from V V. Good stuff!

Wolf - maybe in 7.62x39 for an AK-47 "Bullet Launcher" but they use the same lacquer/solid lube on their .45 ACP and it makes the .45 ammo quite dirty to use. For cheap ammo, I suggest Blazer or S&B. However, the cases from the .45 Wolf are reloadable just like the US Military surplus .45 ACP steel cases we used to reload back in the day. That crap about 1911 extractor wear from steel cases is pure bunk!

ClarkEMyers · 10-08-2003, 05:00 PM

Blazer - just fine but aluminum may dump heat in the gun that brass carries away - I can cite cases where particular guns (S&W Model 59's) had the trigger draw bar bind when used with mucho Blazer very quickly in odd ball training exercises. This is not a knock on Blazer nor did it happen with a normal on the person ammo load. For all normal use the Blazer worked perfectly and certainly did not wear the gun any more than any other ammunition.

03-02-2003, 12:31 PM	#1
STEVEN 1911-KIM Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1	STEEL CASE(WOLF)AND SPEER (ALUMINUM)IS OK TO USE? JUST WONDERING IF I COULD USE WOLF AMMO IN MY KIMBER,SPRINGFIELD,AND GLOCKS? THANK YOU STEVE

04-18-2003, 11:57 PM	#6
DISTINGUISHED PISTOL SHOT Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 135	no go on wolf In my experience, Wolf is terrible ammo and should be avoided. I once bought many cases of it in 9MM, shot a couple boxes, had pierced primers and "blow-backs" (remember to wear eye protection) and returned every remaining box. You get what you pay for people! The CCI/Speer Blazer ammo is quality low cost ammo and I shoot it whenever it is cheap enough or when I am not going to pick-up brass. For those that do not reload - it is an excellent choice.

10-08-2003, 01:04 PM	#9
Carlos Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 97	Wolf Blazer - outstanding factory ammo w/ very clean powder from V V. Good stuff! Wolf - maybe in 7.62x39 for an AK-47 "Bullet Launcher" but they use the same lacquer/solid lube on their .45 ACP and it makes the .45 ammo quite dirty to use. For cheap ammo, I suggest Blazer or S&B. However, the cases from the .45 Wolf are reloadable just like the US Military surplus .45 ACP steel cases we used to reload back in the day. That crap about 1911 extractor wear from steel cases is pure bunk!

10-08-2003, 05:00 PM	#10
ClarkEMyers Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 260	Blazer - just fine but aluminum may dump heat in the gun Blazer - just fine but aluminum may dump heat in the gun that brass carries away - I can cite cases where particular guns (S&W Model 59's) had the trigger draw bar bind when used with mucho Blazer very quickly in odd ball training exercises. This is not a knock on Blazer nor did it happen with a normal on the person ammo load. For all normal use the Blazer worked perfectly and certainly did not wear the gun any more than any other ammunition.

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03-03-2003, 06:24 AM	#2
Ron Kontowsky Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ROSCOMMON COUNTY, MICHIGAN Posts: 56	Yes I know it`s cheap to shoot ! But over doing with this stuff will aid in wear in feed ramp and chamber, also it is coated with a nasty laquer finish that tend to gum up in hot chambers, making cleaning more difficult, and you will never realize the weapons accuracy with the cheap ammo! So personally I stay clear of the stuff! RON KONTOWSKY DEANS GUNSHOP II

03-20-2003, 05:49 PM	#3
groupguy Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 3	I've never had luck with the Wolf pistol ammo in any of my .45s. Wolf rifle rounds work great but the pistol rounds don't. I have shot thousands of rounds of CCI Blazer .45s in and have only had one round that didn't work, the case that didn't have a primer in it. Noticed it before I loaded though as powder was coming out of the primer hole. Not bad for about 5,000 rounds. I normally shoot S&B and keep the brass but my indoor range kind of frowns at brass picking so I leave them my Berdan primed aluminum cased CCI Blazer.

03-21-2003, 04:01 AM	#4
stansdds Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Virginia Posts: 964	Wolf ammo is dirty and evidently the laquer coating on the case will build up in the chambe and cause feeding and extraction problems. Blazer ammo is usually pretty clean and does not leave a coating in the chamber. Given a choice between the two, I would take the Blazer ammo.

03-21-2003, 07:18 AM	#5
Mute Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: People's Republik, Komrade Posts: 934	Wolf ammo is dirty as hell. I had shot some awhile back. Function wasn't a problem, but my magazines had rusting on them after about one week. I'm not usually in the habit of cleaning my mags after going to the range. Blazer works just fine and much cleaner than Wolf.

05-08-2003, 04:13 AM	#7
Ned Christiansen Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 687	Check this thread: http://www.pistolsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=13268 and: http://www.pistolsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=2375

10-02-2003, 12:29 PM	#8
moxie Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 8	Blazer yes, great stuff, Wolf no. Steel cases and jackets bad, IMHO.

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