|10-25-2003, 08:41 PM||#1|
Join Date: Sep 2003
What would be your suggestions concerning the .45 caliber in a Competition gun? I'm considering purchasing a .45 caliber but haven't decided whether I want a "Compact" or Competition Model. Thanks!
|10-25-2003, 08:52 PM||#2|
Join Date: Sep 2001
The obvious initial question is: What TYPE of competition?
Pins? .45 is good. NRA Bullseye? Obviously.
IDPA. It's ONE option. USPSA/IPSC? OK for L-10; otherwise, I'd go w/.40.
Steel? Again, it's ONE option.
Caliber and type of gun are a function of PURPOSE. What competition(s) do you plan to use this gun for? :roll:
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|10-26-2003, 07:56 AM||#6|
Join Date: Sep 2001
Actually, a gun set up for Bullseye (iron sights) could easily be used for PPC shooting semi-wadcutter ammo. Police Practical Combat shooting is not based on a combat gun per se, the big shooters are all shooting highly customized pistols or revolvers designed for top accuracy. To the point where they put 30 rounds into a 1 1/2 inch group and winner is determined by X-count.
Now, having said that, I will say that many PPC shooters use highly customized revolvers, but semi-auto pistols are seen more and more. I myself use a 5" Kimber 45 for PPC with special light recoiling ammo and a reduced power recoil spring.
|10-26-2003, 09:08 AM||#7|
Join Date: Jun 2003
When you say Combat, I am thinking something with a power factor.
the difference in Bullseye and IPSC is dramatic and so is the way the guns are set up.
|10-26-2003, 10:17 AM||#8|
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Issaquah, WA
"Police Combat Pistol Course and NRA Bulleye"
Not really a lot of difference between the two (in comaprison to the other games around).
That said I used my comped IPSC single stack gun for several years in both.
I'd buy the single stack target 9mm that S&W is selling and use it today.
|09-03-2004, 07:23 PM||#9|
Join Date: Apr 2003
I switched from a 40S&W hicap 1911 to a S&W SW1911 in 45acp for USPSA competition this year. If you reload or plan to reload, I would recommend the 45acp. The 9mm is cheap if you'll be buy factory loads, but I'm not a real 9mm fan.....The 45acp does give you a major scoring advantage over the 9mm....he size of the hole. The 45 makes a nice big hole that is more likely to cut the line to the higher ring. As far as felt recoil, I personally find the 45 more manageable. It has a slow push versus the quick snap with the 9. I find follow-up shots quicker with the 45. These are personal opinions/preferences and others may disagree.
|10-29-2004, 10:04 AM||#10|
Join Date: Apr 2003
Missed the Mark on your original question
As far as pistol types....
Bullseye and longer range competitions = Government 5" model
USPSA/IPSC type competitions = Government or Commander model
You will lose some sight radius with the Commander model, but I find mine to have a more natural aimpoint and quicker cycling time. If speed is a major component of the competition, you may gain a slight advantage. With that said, I can't remeber the last time I saw a 1911 Commander model at an USPSA/IPSC competition (ruled by Govt models).
I love the Commanders, but use Government models in competition. For specific brands......I'd recommend a NRM Colt 1991 Govt or S&W SW1911. I have used both in competition with great success. The Colt has the edge on accuracy, but is a little tighter on tolerances so I must screen my reloads before competition (poor crimp or case bulge and the Colt chokes). The S&W has been utterly reliable. Given a choice of only one, think I'd be biased towards the "original" (Colt). Both are outstanding 1911s. S&W was more expensive, but had the "custom" features included. The Colt is less frills, but probably the most accurate out-of-the-box "mass production" 1911 I've fired. The only addition to both guns for compeition was an S&A Arched Mag Guide and extended mag release.
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