ammo for g30

Teufelhunde · 06-19-2004, 10:49 AM

Anyone caring to recommend a G30 or G36 gun/ammo combination that I will not find overly punishing please do so.

The .45 ACP--especially in the aforementioned Glocks--is my first choice for ccw. However, I am not so sure that I will be able to I shoot it/them as well as I do the 9mm G17 and G19. This is to be my every day, everywhere gun.

As it stands,I am leaning toward the G19. That is, unless someone recommends a "pussy cat" ammo/gun combination.

Many thanks,

T

RamJet · 06-22-2004, 07:27 PM

Have you shot any of the .45 Glocks? I don't find excessive recoil regardless of WHAT ammo I'm using. I shoot cheap 230gr. roundnose ammo at the range, PMC or white-box Winchester, but my carry loads are 200 gr. +P Gold Dots. The +P stuff, while snappier than the slow-speed 230 gr. loads, are still not what I'd call abusive recoil. Very manageable and very easy to come back on target.

My .44 magnum S&W 629 Mountain Gun? Now THAT'S abusive recoil. :-?

spcwes · 07-22-2004, 07:37 AM

I would use a light 185 in a hydro-shock or something like that. Still a heavy bigbore chunk of lead. And RamJet is right, none of them have that much recoil.
RamJet,
Try the Winchester 210gr Silver Tip HP in your mountain gun. That is what I use in my mountain gun and I love the ammo. It still has the bad concussion with that little barrel so the hearing protection is a must but for most applications there is nothing it can't handle. I would rate the recoil to a medium 357 load. Also, does your mountain gun say 629 on the frame or 29? I have one from around 2002-2003 and it is stamped 29-4. 8)

Erich · 11-02-2004, 12:42 PM

I carry 200 gr +P EFMJ, personally. I have found that the 230-gr +P JHP loads nosedive in the mag of my G36 (don't know whether it's pilot error or just that the gun's so light) and jam up 1/3 of the time.

So, I've stopped with the 230-gr +Ps. The 200-gr EFMJ runs about 960 fps out of the G36's 3.75" tube.

M. Hall · 11-02-2004, 01:10 PM

I've also had better luck with the rounder ogive bullets in the G36, such as
the Golden Sabre (which I prefer the 185gr +p loading) or the newer Hydra-
Shoks. Abusive recoil? Naaaaaah. 8)

spcwes · 11-03-2004, 06:00 AM

The problem with the recoil and the weapon jamming like it does is that if you don't use them a lot you do not give the weapon a stable platform. In my 36 I have found that with the hot heavy recoil loads if I don't pay attention and get a very good hold I do not give the weapon a good platform and it jams. That is also the case with the Might Mouse Glock 10mm. My hands barely have enough room to hang on. That is why I suggested a light 185gr Hp like the Hydro-shock or something similar. I have been reading on some of the findings on HP performance and the CCI Gold Dots expand best of all tested from a slow velocity. The test was done from small short barreled pistols. Several of the other big ones like the Federal and the Winchester did not do so well. 8)

primersinmyshoe · 12-30-2004, 03:05 AM

I carry the Rem Golden Saber 230g for CCW in my G36. It isn't a "pussy cat", but is very controllable, not at all painful. I would think the lighter 185's would be even easier on the shooter. But consider this, would you rather throw "pussy cats" at a bad guy, or "tigers"?

06-19-2004, 10:49 AM	#1
Teufelhunde Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 14	Ammo recommendations for G30 / G36 Anyone caring to recommend a G30 or G36 gun/ammo combination that I will not find overly punishing please do so. The .45 ACP--especially in the aforementioned Glocks--is my first choice for ccw. However, I am not so sure that I will be able to I shoot it/them as well as I do the 9mm G17 and G19. This is to be my every day, everywhere gun. As it stands,I am leaning toward the G19. That is, unless someone recommends a "pussy cat" ammo/gun combination. Many thanks, T

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06-22-2004, 07:27 PM	#2
RamJet Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 288	Have you shot any of the .45 Glocks? I don't find excessive recoil regardless of WHAT ammo I'm using. I shoot cheap 230gr. roundnose ammo at the range, PMC or white-box Winchester, but my carry loads are 200 gr. +P Gold Dots. The +P stuff, while snappier than the slow-speed 230 gr. loads, are still not what I'd call abusive recoil. Very manageable and very easy to come back on target. My .44 magnum S&W 629 Mountain Gun? Now THAT'S abusive recoil. :-?

07-22-2004, 07:37 AM	#3
spcwes Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Missouri Posts: 391	I would use a light 185 in a hydro-shock or something like that. Still a heavy bigbore chunk of lead. And RamJet is right, none of them have that much recoil. RamJet, Try the Winchester 210gr Silver Tip HP in your mountain gun. That is what I use in my mountain gun and I love the ammo. It still has the bad concussion with that little barrel so the hearing protection is a must but for most applications there is nothing it can't handle. I would rate the recoil to a medium 357 load. Also, does your mountain gun say 629 on the frame or 29? I have one from around 2002-2003 and it is stamped 29-4. 8)

11-02-2004, 12:42 PM	#4
Erich Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico Posts: 135	I carry 200 gr +P EFMJ, personally. I have found that the 230-gr +P JHP loads nosedive in the mag of my G36 (don't know whether it's pilot error or just that the gun's so light) and jam up 1/3 of the time. So, I've stopped with the 230-gr +Ps. The 200-gr EFMJ runs about 960 fps out of the G36's 3.75" tube.

11-02-2004, 01:10 PM	#5
M. Hall Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,141	I've also had better luck with the rounder ogive bullets in the G36, such as the Golden Sabre (which I prefer the 185gr +p loading) or the newer Hydra- Shoks. Abusive recoil? Naaaaaah. 8)

11-03-2004, 06:00 AM	#6
spcwes Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Missouri Posts: 391	The problem with the recoil and the weapon jamming like it does is that if you don't use them a lot you do not give the weapon a stable platform. In my 36 I have found that with the hot heavy recoil loads if I don't pay attention and get a very good hold I do not give the weapon a good platform and it jams. That is also the case with the Might Mouse Glock 10mm. My hands barely have enough room to hang on. That is why I suggested a light 185gr Hp like the Hydro-shock or something similar. I have been reading on some of the findings on HP performance and the CCI Gold Dots expand best of all tested from a slow velocity. The test was done from small short barreled pistols. Several of the other big ones like the Federal and the Winchester did not do so well. 8)

12-30-2004, 03:05 AM	#7
primersinmyshoe Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 11	I carry the Rem Golden Saber 230g for CCW in my G36. It isn't a "pussy cat", but is very controllable, not at all painful. I would think the lighter 185's would be even easier on the shooter. But consider this, would you rather throw "pussy cats" at a bad guy, or "tigers"?