45 acp hardball for self defense

1911luvr · 10-17-2004, 04:53 PM

What is the best over the counter defensive round? What would be the best reload combo? Is liability too much of an issue for using reloads?

Jeffvn · 10-17-2004, 06:09 PM

I use the 230 grain Federal Hydroshok. hits hard but controlable -at least in my 2 .45s.

JeffVN

Publican · 10-17-2004, 06:24 PM

I used to be a Federal Hydra Shok guy and had no real reson for switching but I have been using Proload 230 grain for quite a while now and I am very pleased with the performance! Seems like a bit less muzzle flash at night and in low light which I find to be a plus as well! 8)
Publican

M. Hall · 10-17-2004, 08:18 PM

I like the Golden Sabre 185gr +P's in my Colt Commander,
and the Winchester Ranger 230gr "T"'s in my Sig P220.
I would most definitely avoid handloads in a defensive gun,
unless your practicing....today's factory loads will probably
be as accurate and reliably perform better that most hand-
loads anyway, and if you can show that law enforcement
uses the same load, it's that much more defensible in court.
JMHO of course...

stansdds · 10-18-2004, 02:24 AM

When I carry a 45, I have relied on Federal's 230 grain HydrShok load. The Remington 230 grain Golden Saber has also received high acclaim for personal protection in the 45 ACP caliber.

M. Hall · 10-18-2004, 07:48 PM

I much prefer the 230's without being +p normally, but my
Commander much prefers the 185 grainers, and they sure
expand pretty well when going as fast as they are. I've
tagged coyotes, a mule deer and javelina aplenty, and they
almost all look like they could be in a bullet ad.

RamJet · 10-18-2004, 08:02 PM

I shoot 200gr Speer Gold Dot +P.

Wap wap · 10-20-2004, 06:37 AM

Is their a bad load in 45?

Publican · 10-20-2004, 07:47 AM

Wap Wap,
I know you say that tongue in cheek, but I had an interesting experience with the now infamous American Ammunition .45 hardball about a year ago! If you look at the American Ammunition thread you will see what I'm talking about!! In general though .45 is the way to go!!
Publican 8)

D.O.F · 11-16-2004, 10:36 AM

Aren't there two differnt types of hydra shoks? The low recoil low energy ones and then the high energy ones? at least for the 40 S&W there are.

10-17-2004, 04:53 PM	#1
1911luvr Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 10	45 ACP Defensive Round What is the best over the counter defensive round? What would be the best reload combo? Is liability too much of an issue for using reloads?

10-17-2004, 06:24 PM	#3
Publican Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 47	.45 defensive I used to be a Federal Hydra Shok guy and had no real reson for switching but I have been using Proload 230 grain for quite a while now and I am very pleased with the performance! Seems like a bit less muzzle flash at night and in low light which I find to be a plus as well! 8) Publican

10-20-2004, 06:37 AM	#8
Wap wap Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 104	bad load Is their a bad load in 45?

10-20-2004, 07:47 AM	#9
Publican Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 47	.45 defensive load Wap Wap, I know you say that tongue in cheek, but I had an interesting experience with the now infamous American Ammunition .45 hardball about a year ago! If you look at the American Ammunition thread you will see what I'm talking about!! In general though .45 is the way to go!! Publican 8)

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10-17-2004, 06:09 PM	#2
Jeffvn Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 55	I use the 230 grain Federal Hydroshok. hits hard but controlable -at least in my 2 .45s. JeffVN

10-17-2004, 08:18 PM	#4
M. Hall Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,141	I like the Golden Sabre 185gr +P's in my Colt Commander, and the Winchester Ranger 230gr "T"'s in my Sig P220. I would most definitely avoid handloads in a defensive gun, unless your practicing....today's factory loads will probably be as accurate and reliably perform better that most hand- loads anyway, and if you can show that law enforcement uses the same load, it's that much more defensible in court. JMHO of course...

10-18-2004, 02:24 AM	#5
stansdds Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Virginia Posts: 964	When I carry a 45, I have relied on Federal's 230 grain HydrShok load. The Remington 230 grain Golden Saber has also received high acclaim for personal protection in the 45 ACP caliber.

10-18-2004, 07:48 PM	#6
M. Hall Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,141	I much prefer the 230's without being +p normally, but my Commander much prefers the 185 grainers, and they sure expand pretty well when going as fast as they are. I've tagged coyotes, a mule deer and javelina aplenty, and they almost all look like they could be in a bullet ad.

10-18-2004, 08:02 PM	#7
RamJet Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 288	I shoot 200gr Speer Gold Dot +P.

11-16-2004, 10:36 AM	#10
D.O.F Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 9	Aren't there two differnt types of hydra shoks? The low recoil low energy ones and then the high energy ones? at least for the 40 S&W there are.

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