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Old 04-15-2011, 05:20 PM   #1
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Remington Flat Nose

Anyone use Remington UMC 45 ACP 230 Grain Flat Nose Enclosed Base ammunition for daily carry, or something similar (flat nose) available as already loaded?

The UMC description paints it as an indoor-range round, but why wouldn't it work for daily carry?

I've read the discussions about FMJ round nose vs. hollowpoints and would like to at least experiment with some flat nose, which is almost impossible to find already loaded.

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Old 04-17-2011, 11:17 AM   #2
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I've read the discussions about FMJ round nose vs. hollowpoints and would like to at least experiment with some flat nose, which is almost impossible to find already loaded.

Thanks.
If you've read discussions of FMJ vs HP ammo for SD, I'm sure that you realize that HP is the choice by far of most experienced combat shooters (some do use FMJ for it's utter reliability in feeding, etc). It is more lethal than FMJ (creates a much larger wound channel) and less likely to over-penetrate or pass through and strike an unintended target. The military's use of FMJ is dictated by the Geneva Convention, and by the belief that when you wound a combatant, you take the wounded man and those tending him out of the fight. When you kill a combatant outright, you only take that individual out of the fight. What will be the hypothesis or the nature of your "experiment" ? ? When you say "flat nose" are you referring to RNFP (round nose flat point) ? ? I think that UMC correctly labelled that round as appropriate for indoor range use, and see no reason or advantage to be gained by using it for a purpose for which it is not designed or intended ...... JMHO............

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Old 04-17-2011, 02:30 PM   #3
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. What will be the hypothesis or the nature of your "experiment" ? ? When you say "flat nose" are you referring to RNFP (round nose flat point) ? ? ............
I like FMJ for its "utter reliability," and understand the value of a hollowpoint. I am concerned that hollowpoints may not be as reliable in feeding, and may fail to penetrate in some cases.

My "experiment" would be only to determine if a truncated cone round feeds reliably in my weapons.

Again, thanks for the reply.

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Old 04-17-2011, 04:11 PM   #4
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A "truncated cone" is generally referred to as a Semi Wad Cutter (SWC). SWCHP is self explanatory. You are wise to experiment with different rounds to find one you can trust your life to. Generally speaking, IMHO Golden Sabers feed well in almost every 1911. CorBon PowRball has a Teflon ball seated in the HP cavity. This provides a VERY feed ramp friendly ogive (shape) that is slippery, penetrates well, expands reliably, and won't clog up when it passes through heavy clothing. I have used both of these, as well as Black Talon (which is no longer manufactured, but can still be found. Golden Saber has replaced this load) with total satisfaction for many years in several different 1911s. I'm sure that others on the Forum have their pet loads, and will make suggestions also.....

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