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Old 08-13-2006, 04:14 AM   #51
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Re: $2000.00 Custom 9x23

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If I go the 1911 38 Super route I'm almost certain I'd need extractor work. We're talking about a rimless vs. a semi rim cartridge.
Sounds like you are set on a double stack gun. I would not let the extractor situation be the deciding factor, however. I have a home converted 9x23mm which uses a .38 Super slide. For quite a while I could not decide whether it was a 9x23mm, or a .38Super. Though the extractor was a bit loose with 9x23mm cases, it never failed to function. Eventually, I will adjust the tension on the extractor, and at that point will keep the .38 Super barrel and cases out of that slide.

The difference in diameter is so slight that all it takes is a minor adjustment.
 
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Old 08-13-2006, 02:47 PM   #52
 
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9x23 mags

Louisbob2,
I don't know that there is a9x23 mag. May be My ignorance showin', I've always used 38Super mags. Rimless or Semi rimless? You won't know if You need extractor work untill You shoot the pistol. Anticipatin' problems often help make them happen.
High capacity weapon???10 round mag of 9x23 with one in the chamber to start.(A 1911) If 11 rounds won't solve the problem...it should at least by You reload time.
If You are thinkin' 2011 S-I or Caspain .....That could run up close to $2000 or over.
I have no idea what can be done with Glunks. I've attended two of their Armourer schools.....Never owned one.
Thanks,
Bill Caldwell
 
Old 08-13-2006, 03:39 PM   #53
 
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Mr. Bill, I have such confidence in your knowledge...if you say rain is acoming...I'm looking for rain gear. And you are right as usual, but I do have two magazines, that came with my 9x23 Colt, that are marked 9x23. They are no different than a .38 Super magazine, other than the marking. I use mostly the Super mags because they are stainless, but it doesn't matter.

As written earlier; the 10 mm Glock can be converted to the 9x23 by a change of the barrel and possibly a little magazine tuning. I have not personally tried this conversion at this time. I have e-mailed a few that have and talked with a couple, too. They were pleased with the outcome. Heck, if it fails to meet your expectations, you are out $200.00 for a barrel. You still have a 10 mm Glock. Not too bad a deal in my book.

Best of luck to you.

Buddy
 
 
Old 08-13-2006, 03:43 PM   #54
 
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louishob
Bar-Sto Precision has drop in or match barrels.
Priced from $200-$265.
Glock 20 steel lined magazines work the best . You may have to bend the lips in a little.
I have converted a glock 20 and 29.
 
Old 08-13-2006, 03:59 PM   #55
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Re: 9x23 mags

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I don't know that there is a9x23 mag. May be My ignorance showin', I've always used 38Super mags. Rimless or Semi rimless? You won't know if You need extractor work untill You shoot the pistol.
I doubt that there is a 9x23mm marked magazine being produced nowadays. I vaguely remember seeing one in the mag well of a 9x23mm Colt at a gun show. At the time, my ignorance was such that I was confusing the 9x23mm with the 9mm Steyr, which Colt also produced at one time, within my lifetime, anyway. I would like to know if there is a 9mm Steyr magazine, as well. I can show you pictures of a Colt 9x23mm magazine, but like you, I have always used .38 Super mags.

I suspect that the only difference in any of the 3 would be in the stamping on the floorplate.

As usual, I am late to the party when it comes to the 9x23mm. I was going through some personal issues at the time it was introduced, and have absolutely no memory of the cartridge until a few years ago, even though I have been a .38m Super advocate, owner, and reloader for almost 3 decades.

As you suggest, my experience has been that extractor issues are minimal. Some people get upset when you say "bend" the extractor. However, if you say, "adjust", or "tweak" the extractor, all is well. :roll:
 
Old 08-14-2006, 10:03 AM   #56
 
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I've seen 9X23 marked magazines on E-Bay

I've seen 9X23 marked magazines on E-Bay. The price was conversation piece high but likely did not reflect the true rarity - too rich for my blood but not outrageous - about the same as a good two-tone or a Colt .22 Ace.
 
Old 08-14-2006, 05:23 PM   #57
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I recently saw an entire conversion kit on E-Bay! It included barrel, slide, bushing, spring, ejector and magazine.

I am curious about this. When did Colt try to market this? For how much? My experience with caliber conversions on Gov't model pistols is that it is going to take a lot more work than just installing drop in parts.

Of course, I did just that when I converted my .38 Super to 9mm, but that is the simplest conversion possible, and I was lucky.

Some times I wonder about Colt.
 
Old 08-15-2006, 08:07 PM   #58
 
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Re: 9x23 mags

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Louisbob2,
I don't know that there is a9x23 mag. May be My ignorance showin', I've always used 38Super mags. Rimless or Semi rimless? You won't know if You need extractor work untill You shoot the pistol. Anticipatin' problems often help make them happen.
High capacity weapon???10 round mag of 9x23 with one in the chamber to start.(A 1911) If 11 rounds won't solve the problem...it should at least by You reload time.
If You are thinkin' 2011 S-I or Caspain .....That could run up close to $2000 or over.
I have no idea what can be done with Glunks. I've attended two of their Armourer schools.....Never owned one.
Thanks,
Bill Caldwell
Glunks ? Is that a typo, or do I sense a touch of disdain ?
 
Old 08-16-2006, 03:23 PM   #59
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9x23 is doing fine. In fact there is a Colt 9x23 for sale in the foums at this moment :lol: .



 
Old 08-17-2006, 12:37 PM   #60
 
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Glunk Disdain

louishob2,
I can assure You and Everybody else I have no Disdain for any weapon that can cause Me great bodily harm....grievious injury or death.....Whether it be a sharpened wood pole, An 11 cent ice pick from 1909...A RG 38 special or a Glunk model 1 thru 99 or how many ever models there are...and whatever model it might be.


Do I hold a glunk in the same esteem that I do a 1911/2011? Certainly not! Not with standin' how good Dave Sirvegy and Julie Goloski do competin' with 'em.

If I have THE CONFRONTATION with THE PUNK....said punk carryin' any of the above mentioned weapons from the stick to the Glunk...will My actions be any different than if the punk was carryin' the finest 1911 ever made? Most certainly not! I'll try to be faster and more accurate than I've ever been before. Like that old sayin' "A rose by anyother name"? A weapon by any other name.....

I've shot glunks over the years.... first real experience was the Glock armourer school, Murray State College. Old friend and I were handlin' one...Old friend is a Hell of a 1911 Hand. Old friend said "Glunkiest Damm Thing I've Ever Handled". From that time and forever more ,...right or wrong ...they will always be glunks to Me.

If Yaw'll will go to Wild Bill Caldwell ...Veiw From the Hills..Read Peace ,Goodwill and Rain....You might get a clearer understandin' of why some of Us older Hands feel the way We do concernin' certain pistols.

Thanks'
Bill Caldwell
 
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