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Old 05-29-2001, 11:43 PM   #11
 
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OK DD, I'm getting tired of seeing the Talisman...everytime I see it I want one :smile:

Yes, more info on the G20..

I shouldn't have started this thread..Now I got to add more guns to my wish/want/buy list..
 
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Old 05-30-2001, 01:37 AM   #12
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The Glock mods that were done include: Heinie Straight Eight sights, an Alchemy "Power Lever" slide stop release (not sure I will leave this on) and the trigger was changed to a 3.5 lb connector and a NY 1 trigger spring. I like this trigger better than any other Glock combo I have tried. The G20 slide with the longer sight radius and extra mass works well for me. I bought a Ky-Tac Braveheart holster for it, and it conceals about as well as that big square slide will allow. I feel like I can conceal the Talisman just about as well as the chunky Glock. The STI is so flat compared to the Glock, but then you do have to deal with having the bigger double stack butt to conceal. The grip reshape does makes a HUGE difference in feel, pointability and overall shootability. Dane suggested leaving the finger grooves on and I do like how it works out, in that it causes me to make sure I am indexing my hand correctly, i.e. not monkey gripping it.

The one thing still to be resolved, is the mag base pads for the 10mm mags vs. the .45 mags. The photo shows a G30 mag in the gun. To me, the G30 mag is just enough longer that it makes a big difference in ones ability to grasp it securely. With the 10 round G30 mags I can just get enough of my last finger on there to make it feel right. With the 10 round G29 mags, my pinky doesn't have a place to land. Dane cut the the backstrap to G30 length, as we can't add more backstrap, but we could cut it later. I still need to play with getting the right size mag base extender that doesn't alter the mags, in such a way, as to make them illegal (adding capicity) -- which is not exactly a good idea in a carry gun IMO. Unfortunately, the G29 and G30 base pads attach differently. :sad:

FWIW, Dane has expressed concerns that the 10mm breech face is not properly sized for the 9x23. I am told Caspian is planing a 9mm slide for the G20/21 frames. Dane's feedback (from users in the field) has been that the 10mm mags don't fuction 100% loaded with 9x23. Not that I doubt David's experience, but I will only carry 10mm rounds, when I have proven it to myself that the 9x23 works 100% in the Glock.

BTW, I previously posted a thread about the Glock here. There was also a thread on the Talisman here.

The Glock is nicer than I though a Glock could be. It was also a pretty cheap date compared to the Talisman, but then there is NO QUESTION which I like better or would chose if I could only have one. The Talisman is just plain sweet. Trust me eerw, you DO want one of these. All the controls are familiar to 1911 shooters and the extra capacity is reassuring. Though my single stacks feels like sports cars after piloting the fat bottomed double stack for a while. Still the carry double stack from BCP inspires true confidence. Damn fine piece!

DD

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Old 05-30-2001, 02:26 AM   #13
 
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Try the "Pearce Grip" Glock 29 extension. Adds a place for the pinki and doesn't change capacity of the 29 magazines. The back is curved back into the rear of the grip frame,(also fits the 9 round 30 magazine). :smile: Mike
 
 
Old 05-30-2001, 02:49 AM   #14
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That is one of the options I have been exploring. But if you can visualize this, you find the G29 mags come up short where the backstrap meets the mag base. This leave a little protrusion that can easily prevent you from fully seating the mags. Not good. I need something that makes a G29 mag as long as the G30 mag. I would likely have Dane grind of the hook on the end, so that the profile was more like the G30 rounded one. Texturing will cover over the grind marks.

DD

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Old 05-30-2001, 03:14 AM   #15
 
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DD On the 29, with full mag. it does take a sharp rap to seat mag. on closed slide. The Pearce base clears rear of frame by 1/16" A friend has a 30 and I though they were the same as never compared the frames. Mike
 
Old 06-28-2001, 07:09 AM   #16
 
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A stock Colt 9x23 Enhanced 1911A1 and a SVI Hi-Cap that is my current project.
 
Old 07-11-2001, 08:24 AM   #17
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A Colt Series 80 MkIV dual caliber .38S/9X23, didn't come from the factory that way, just lucked into a factory barrel. BoMar sights, and the receiver slabs slabs are polished on a stainless frame. It's one of the prettiest `11's Ive ever seen.
 
Old 07-16-2001, 07:54 PM   #18
 
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Does a Destroyer carbine count? It's 9x23 largo/Bayard but supposedly(Haven't tried yet) you can shoot 9x23 winchester loads out of it. :grin:
A neat toy/fun gun for the price. Got mine from aimsurplus.com for $139. I'd post a pic of it but I cancelled my photopoint acct...so here's what it looks like...only not in quite as good of shape as this one....

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Old 07-16-2001, 08:01 PM   #19
 
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Eugene,

That would be pretty cool....Olympic Arms makes a 9mm and 10mm carbines. Somewhere in there is a 9x23 conversion waiting to happen too.
 
Old 07-18-2001, 09:39 PM   #20
 
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As my SVI Project 9x23 is taking more time and money then I had planned on (like that is news to anyone here), and having sold a Winchester '97 that I no longer needed, I'll be picking up this "Used but NOT Abused" STI Eagle tomorrow to hold me over until my SVI is completed. So we can add that to the list. It has a Bull Barrel and I think I'll get it Hard Chromed. May put it up for sale in six months or so.


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