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Old 09-10-2006, 04:11 PM   #11
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I saw a .41 AE barrel on E-Bay not too long ago, and I felt the same temptation that you did. So I checked availability of brass, and while Midway does carry it, it must be made of gold instead of brass.

Considering I have a .41 Avenger barrel which lays around and collects dust most of the time, it would be a ballistic redundancy to have a .41 AE, also.

Though as Bill points out, logic does not always supercede JHTH!

I just had to have a 357 SIG barrel for my Delta Elite. Well, I got it, and I finally got it running decent, after a great deal of trouble. Now it also mostly collects dust while I shoot my 9x23mm, with about the same ballistics, much more reliability, and one round more capacity.

It is a never ending battle. Kind of fun, though.
 
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Old 09-10-2006, 05:34 PM   #12
 
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Originally Posted by grendelbane
I saw a .41 AE barrel on E-Bay not too long ago, and I felt the same temptation that you did. So I checked availability of brass, and while Midway does carry it, it must be made of gold instead of brass.

Considering I have a .41 Avenger barrel which lays around and collects dust most of the time, it would be a ballistic redundancy to have a .41 AE, also.

Though as Bill points out, logic does not always supercede JHTH!

I just had to have a 357 SIG barrel for my Delta Elite. Well, I got it, and I finally got it running decent, after a great deal of trouble. Now it also mostly collects dust while I shoot my 9x23mm, with about the same ballistics, much more reliability, and one round more capacity.

It is a never ending battle. Kind of fun, though.
GB,

I can't help but commiserate and agree with you on the weirdo cartridges out there. It's fun yet discouraging and sometimes down-right frustrating. I'm a 1911-only guy so all of the things I'm thinking about are within those confines. I've scoured all the resources I know of for .41 AE and have come across a sizeable amount but it sure cost me. I'm seriously considering Bill's advice about reloading.

Wait till I get involved on a thread about rifle calibers - .257 Roberts, .307 Win., 35 Whelen etc.
 
Old 09-10-2006, 05:51 PM   #13
 
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Originally Posted by Jim Higginbotham
This is just a guess but the guys who make the .40 run reliably in the 1911 are loading 220 gr bullets to 1.25" OAL. Of course they will not fit in most standard .40 caliber mags or chamber in a standard chamber.

This would probably work in the .41 (again then it would not fit in another mag for a converted 9mm like a Browning or CZ) and you would probably have to to have the throat in the .41 AE barrle lengthened some.

Oddly enough bullets should be no problem as there are plenty available for the .41 Mag.

However note that most of the folks who shoot lengthened .40 S&W are all about competition and they are shooting 220gr bullets at about 600 fps. I am not sure ballistically that is were you want to be.

If I wanted ballistics in the .40 or .41AE factory range I would probably just risk the occasional malfunction, since any 1911 I carried for defense would be a .45 anyway - unless I was just in a mood to give the opposition a little bit of an advantage

For hunting, in most cases, I would probably like the factory ballistics. I think I loaded some Sierry 170gr JHPs in mine in the old days. I also think Speer made some Gold Dot .41AEs in either 170 or 180 gr. but I could be wrong. Seems like Samson 200gr fmjs hit about 900-950 fps.

Good luck with the project.

Jim
Jim,

Much obliged for the insights. FWIW, I noticed that Mr. Reed is making some .41 AE ammo. He lists a 170-gr. JHP at 1230 FPS and a 210-gr. JHP at around 1150 FPS. These seem to be fairly potent although I think that .41 AE can do a little more. I'm also not sure if he had the 1911-format in mind while developing these loads.

I've been thinking about a load that uses the 180-gr. Barnes XPB. Seems like you could seat this bullet at a depth where it would still be short enough to fit a 1911 10mm magazine, yet have enough ooomph to make for a decent SD round. As you noted earlier though, I would not plan on carrying this pistol - rather I'd most likely use it at the range and as a conversation piece.

Thanks again, and if something else crosses your mind - please share.
 
 
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If you are still on your .41 Action Express caper, I can help or I might buy your barrel.
 
Old 09-14-2013, 09:28 AM   #15
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Holy Old Threads, Batman!! That barrel is probably worn out by now.
 
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