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Old 11-16-2010, 02:30 PM   #1
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Illegal ammo in the U.S.

I've done some looking around through search engines, and can't find a definite set of answers. What ammunition is illegal to own, carry, posses, all that stuff in the US?, (by the U.S. I mean all the 48 in general but not including California and it's mountain of added restrictions.) Also I have one more question, between the 2 in your opinion based on what you know about the ammo which do you think is a better personal protection round, The Golden Saber in .45 ACP or The Ranger Talon in .45 ACP? (both are the bonded jacket version HP) I have a couple boxes of both, but which one would be the better choice to have chambered to save my life if it came down to it? Thanks for any answers or advise in advance.
 
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Old 11-16-2010, 06:40 PM   #2
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About the only ammo that's illegal for "Civilians" is ammo specifically made to penetrate bullet proof vests.
As example, you can't buy FN 5.7 military type ammo because it will go through a vest. You can buy the commercial "civilian" type 5.7.

Possession of AP ammo is legal, as example if you have some military surplus or commercial AP ammo made or imported before the law was passed.

Some cities or states have different laws, so you have to check the local laws to be safe.

As for the Golden Saber or Ranger, todays defense ammo is all about as close to 100% effective as it's possible to get a pistol bullet given current technology and design.
What comes out on top of one test will be one or two down on another test.
Trying to choose "the best" is an exercise in futility.

The ammo to choose is the ammo that's most RELIABLE.
Accuracy and bullet performance is no where near as important as having a gun/magazine/ammo combination that ALWAYS works when needed.
Accuracy is nice and so's a bullet that performs well, but if it never leaves the barrel it's useless no matter if you can hit a dime at 50 yards or the bullet penetrates 20 inches and blows up to .95 caliber.

People spend way too much time worrying about accuracy or "the best bullet" when they should be worrying about a reliable gun.
 
Old 11-17-2010, 06:01 AM   #3
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Thats pretty much correct federally. Some states prohibit hollowpoints if I remember correctly.

As far as civilian self-defense rounds, I really personally would not care as long as they are topflight manufacturers rounds. R&D has proven to me that they all pretty much are within acceptable limits for what a person to person close quarter contact shooting would require. I don't get caught up in these caliber or which bullet wars. My first priority is to HAVE A GUN! A reliable one, one I trust my life to. Bullets, well if I can train enough to put them where I need to then I don't care whats in the gun. Federal HST, Remy GS, Speer GD, Winch.Ranger, all good to go in my book.
 
 
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Thanks for the advise from both of you. My main carry weapon has is a Taurus PT 24/7 .45 ACP. I've had it close to 6 years at this point it's broke in to the point I feel confident if I pull the trigger it will pop. When I 1st had got it, if I would keep a full clip of 12 + 1, it would some times jam because it was new and too tight. With time and learning what the gun liked most to operate, I got to know the little things that made a difference. It's a 12 round clip but I never keep more then 10 in it, I would rather have 2 less shots over all, then a gun that might jam after the 1st shot. So I have the reliable gun part down, I just hear so much hype about what round is better, and new "improved" rounds come out all the time. They put a lot of pressure on what round you should use, that it makes you think you might have to buy the new stuff to be sure your safe, but then again the people making the claims are the same people selling the ammo, and getting you to buy is there job.
 
Old 11-18-2010, 04:58 AM   #5
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You know, for the first half of my life we carried fmj ball ammo in our 1911s and thought nothing of it. Relied on it even. Never gave it a doubt. Now like you said its all the latest greatest HP round by each manufacturer and everyone gots there own opinion because they have to justify their own choices.
Like I said, the gun comes first, the person second, decent ammo third.

Back in military days we downloaded mags. Carried that over too. I always have.

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