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Old 02-17-2014, 08:50 AM   #21
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.Once I get the gun back I'll post some pics of the gun with cylinder opened and cocked along with it in the holsters.
Hammer cocked with the cylinder open doesn't prove that it can swing out with the hammer cocked. I can swing a cylinder out on a Smith & Wesson...pull the cylinder latch back and hold it...and cock the hammer. The Colt latch just works backward.

I don't doubt that you had the gun holstered with the hammer cocked. What I have doubts about is a holster that was designed specifically for the gun that won't allow the strap or thumb break to be used unless the hammer is cocked. A holster maker wouldn't do that. Revolvers aren't meant to be carried cocked. Despite the myths to the contrary, not even the 1911 was designed or intended to be continuously maintained in Condition One/Cocked and Locked...even though it can be pretty safely because it has a manual safety that mechanically blocks the trigger. Revolvers don't have a manual safety, and the triggers run to about half the pull weight of a stock, ordnance spec 1911.

You either had the gun in the wrong holster, or you just decided to carry it cocked.

My guess is that you thought that you could swing the cylinder out with the hammer cocked and tickled the trigger while you were trying to get it to move...then the cylinder swung out when the hammer fell.

The clue is in your own statement.

I brought it up to open and dump the cylinders it went off
Even if the cylinder moved with the hammer cocked...which I strongly doubt...once it moved a 16th inch out of battery, the firing pin couldn't have hit a primer.

At this point, I don't think you really know exactly what happened.

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Old 02-17-2014, 06:33 PM   #22
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See now at least that makes sense. I'm not sure what happened. The only thing I truley remember is bringing it out of the holster and the ringing in my ears. I bought the first holster at cabelas it was labeled for a king cobra. It won't fit with the hammer down so...
Old 02-17-2014, 08:42 PM   #23
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Here's a suggestion that might clear some of this up.

Contact the holster maker and give them the holster model number that's stamped on the back.
Ask if it was made to fit the King Cobra, then ask if the holster was made for a King Cobra why you can't snap the strap over the hammer.

Then contact Bianchi, Galco, and Blackhawk and give them the model numbers of those holsters and ask if those are the correct holsters for a King Cobra.

Then ask all of them if they make a holster or intend for a revolver to be carried in their holsters with the hammer cocked.


I definitely would be talking to a good lawyer very soon, because:
1. Your neighbor may well be suing you, and he'll win.
2. Your apartment owner will no doubt be "requesting" that you move.....NOW.
3. You may not get the gun back if the police or prosecutor decide to drag you into court on charges.
People take a very dim view of bullets sailing through walls of occupied dwellings.
A judge may order the gun confiscated or part of a plea agreement may be that the gun gets confiscated.

Last, for God's sake get some formal training on firearms.
Even if you're totally unfamiliar with double action revolvers, there's just no excuse for carrying a revolver with the hammer cocked.
Just common sense tells you not to do that any more than you'd stick a razor sharp kitchen knife in your pants pocket.
Old 02-18-2014, 03:37 AM   #24
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dfariswheel just gave you some very good advice on all points. I'd at least consider it.
Old 02-18-2014, 09:05 AM   #25
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I believe this to be a true example of Criminal Negligence.
Old 02-18-2014, 01:35 PM   #26
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Criminal what?

I'm glad I don't live in your state. Here its a class B or C misdemeanor. So for all you lawyers that like to post stuff just remember we all don't live in the same fucked up state as everyone else. Funny thing about us in the northern parts, we have higher gun ownership, less restricted gun laws and for some odd reason a lot lower crime rate then the rest of the country. Funny how that works.
Old 02-18-2014, 04:20 PM   #27
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YOU can here asking for help.
You got some good advice, and admittedly some harsh words.

You're the one who from just plain uncaring carelessness and incompetence put a .357 Magnum bullet through an occupied dwelling.
By the sheer grace of God that bullet didn't go through some innocent persons head, or worse, some child.
For that you get no sympathy.

You seem to know everything you need to know, so....good luck with the legal system, and I'm done here.

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Old 02-18-2014, 06:39 PM   #28
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Tyler, Your an ignorant, dangerous gun handler in all 50 states...

of course that's only IMHO...
Old 02-19-2014, 09:06 AM   #29
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It won't fit with the hammer down so...

So you never thought the bag might have been mislabeled or switched at the store. Or the leather might be required to be stretched? Yet you didn't think to return it? Your solution was to cock the hammer and holster it?

Your lack of sense in carrying a revolver makes the fact you attempt to carry a 1911 even more disconcerting. It seems that there is a total lack of any education in the area of handgun use.
Old 02-19-2014, 09:59 AM   #30
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Well, Tyler. You asked for advice. We can give it to ya straight, or we can tell whatcha wanna hear. What'll it be, Sport?

I'm done, too.

But, do carry on.

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