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Old 11-05-2003, 01:51 PM   #1
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p7 or 3913 for ccw ?

Need thoughts and advice please. Which would be a better choice for IWB CCW, a P7-PSP or a S&W 3913? The difference in cost does not matter so please give me YOUR choice, and the reasons why. I have had Sigs, Colts, Walthers, Berettas, H&K, and S&W autos (in all cal.). I am 5'6" and 160 so I really like a flat carry auto. The P99 and USPC are nice but I have narrowed it down between the P7 and the 3913. Help me decide.
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Old 11-05-2003, 02:00 PM   #2
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If money is not involved, that is an easy choice.


I owned the 3913 several years ago (My father now has it in his bedroom along with a Colt Det. Special that I gave him.) and still do own/carry a few P7M8s.

The P7M8 is more ambi, more accurate, points better for me (although that is an individual thing), and the trigger is MUCH better. I also think that the squeeze cocker is an extremely safe and fast into action carry piece.

Just my $.02

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Old 11-05-2003, 04:46 PM   #3
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My P7M8 is the most accurate, fastest on target, best pointing, pistol I own. It sits low in your hand and is easy to point. It has a light trigger. The draw and cocking will take a little getting used to. I have a good IWB holster from Matt DelFatti in Wisconson. He is a retired police officer. The P7M8 heats up at the range after 30 or so rounds. I shoot my USP .45F while it cools down. It is a little hard to clean. Use a .270 rifle bronze brush to clean out the "chamber". This is my favorite pistol, bar none. Take a look at www.parkcitiestactical.com and then the "clult of the P7" for more information on this great pistol. 8)
Old 11-07-2003, 06:46 AM   #4
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I've owned a 6906 (similiar in size to the 3913) and a P7M8 and there is no comparison. The P7 fits my hand better (longer grip), is slimmer to carry (narrower slide, no safety lever), and has a smoother and more consistent trigger. The squeeze cocker is safer to carry and faster than flipping off a safety, the mag release is faster and easier than the button, and due to both the better trigger and longer, fixed barrel, the P7 is more accurate in my hand. Good luck on your choice but IMHO there is no comparison.
Old 11-07-2003, 06:50 AM   #5
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Keep weight factor in mind?

Old 11-07-2003, 04:45 PM   #6
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I am your size.

I carry the P7M8 in a Sparks EX in the spring/summer and in a Del Fatti SR in the fall/winter.

Put some Winchester Ranger 127's in there and you're good to go.
Old 11-08-2003, 01:14 PM   #7
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P7M8 hands down.
Old 03-23-2004, 12:44 PM   #8
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I have recently bought a PSP, A P7M8, and a Springfield operator....ouch my checking acount hurts.... I have owned several S & W's in the past. I think for an everyday carry piece the PSP is the best bet! The german police guns are
as a rule in pretty nice shape and while not cheap... ($600-750 range) they are .... for the money a best buy in a top quality carry gun! (The M8 seem to sell used for $900 through 1200 range!) The slides of the PSP do tend to turn a plum color, (I had mine Hard chromed), so you may want to have it refinished. Holsters are a little hard to come by, you have to hunt a little to find what you want! "The cult of the P7" is a great site with lots of humor, and insight!

Good Luck!

Old 05-14-2004, 06:23 PM   #9
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Not that you would expect another answer here, but- P7 gets my vote.

I grew up in handgun-carry-friendly Indiana, then after college lived in not-so-carry-friendly places for eight years or so. I had a couple of years notice that I was returning, so I gave a lot of consideration to what handgun to get then.

I decided on the S&W 3913. I had been shooting a 1911 a lot, and felt "capable" with it, but wanted something smaller. Too much temptation to leave a larger gun behind. I wanted more control than a small 1911. I love Browning HiPowers, but again, I wanted smaller.

I got a 3913 when I came back, and carried it for a couple of years. I never really felt comfortable shooting it. I had hoped that with the same amount of practice to become competent with the .45, I could just plain be a magician with the 9mm. Never happened. My theory of dropping down in gun size and caliber together gained nothing. Or so I thought at the time.
The 3913 went for a Glock 22, then Glock 23, then HK USP 40, USP 45, etc and so on.

In addition to 45s, 10mms, 357 Sigs, etc, I had several other 9mms during that time, standard and compact- Browning HiPowers, Sigs, Glocks, even another 3913. With the exception of the second 3913, the 9mms shot like I wanted the first 3913 to. The second 3913 was like the first- OK, but I could hit just as well with a tiny, booming 45.

I got an HK P7 about a year ago. Wow. Carrys like nothing, shoots fast (real fast) and accurate. It has gone bang every time so far.
Old 07-29-2004, 05:02 PM   #10
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You are among a few gun owners who can say money makes no issue while choosing between a regular pistol and an HK P7. Actually I will laugh at you loudly if you don’t carry a P7! Let’s say this, if can afford a new BMW, your life deserves more than one airbags. Protecting your valuable life, that’s a job you give no gun but the very best.

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