|02-24-2004, 03:37 AM||#11|
Join Date: May 2003
it has a supported chamber. If a barrel has a ramp it most likely has a supported chamber. to check drop in a round and see if there is a lot of brass that is not engulfed by the barrel.
colt 1911 generally have unsupported chambers, so does the glocks.
|03-03-2004, 10:48 PM||#12|
Join Date: Aug 2001
I have a standard usp and a mk23. Its comforting to have a pistol which can combine excellent accuracy with incredible reliability. For a combat arm designed to work covered in mud not cleaned for weeks it would be nice to have. In suburbia, its a poor choice. Even with my big hands it is cumbersome which makes it not the greatest gun at the range. The bore axis seems high, too. Actually, i'm not really sure why the grip is so large.. It holds the same number of rounds as the usp. I'm not sure who would feel comfortable grabbing it. The tactical rail is useless unless you're willing to shell out over a grand for a light that fits (insight LAM or wilcox). I think this pistol was predominantly designed to work flawlessly with and without the suppressor. Since i can't have a suppressor, i'd have to agree with the sentiment that a usp tactical or a usp expert would be a better choice. You've really got to shoot one before you buy it. I've seen two ranges rent them, keep looking around.
Oh and BTW the trigger does suck. I'd like to find somebody to smooth it up but i'm worried they'd screw it up and devalue the gun.
|03-04-2004, 03:59 PM||#13|
Join Date: Nov 2003
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|03-11-2004, 06:54 AM||#14|
Join Date: Feb 2004
bachman guns in texas has mk23's for $1599
i recently saw a post on another board about the mk23, supposedly bachman pawn and guns in texas has them nib for 1599. i didn't check this out myself so i don't know if it's true or not but i guess it's worth a try if you're interested in buying one.
|04-02-2004, 09:36 PM||#15|
Join Date: Jan 2002
HK Mark 23
The Mark 23 is big and cumbersome, I will definitely second that. I have shot them quite a bit and not been all that impressed. It's just another HK, no better, no worse than any of their other excellent products. Those O-rings wear out a lot quicker than they claim (less than 500 rounds). I forget which one of the groups at Ft. Bragg went out and bought USP Tacticals right after getting in the Mk 23 Mod O pistols, but that ought to say something. I think some of the AFSOC and NAVSPECWARGRUs are using them still, though. The Army's 1st SFOD-D, more commonly referred to as Delta Force, still issues two 1911s to its operators, as does the FBI's HRT. I think the Mark 23 is an interesting novelty for civilians, as it has been thoroughly torture tested and is fun to shoot even if somewhat bulky. My buddy uses his personal one for can-plinking. It does the job almost as well as a Ruger Mk2.
|04-02-2004, 10:23 PM||#16|
Join Date: Mar 2004
I've owned the Tactical and shot the SOCOM. The Tactical is all the SOCOM ever needed to be. Unless you are definately going to use a supressor, the Expert or Elite would probably be the better choice. Longer sight radius, longer hood to front lock up (possibly producing better accuracy). I also had the CCF flash supressor, it didn't really do anything IMO. I'm seriously considering a .45 myself, and the Expert is the way I'm leaning. I have no intention of getting a supressor, so I'd rather have the extra sight radius. Also the Expert/Elite have lower sights, something that bugged me about the Tactical.
I have a 9mm Elite right now, and it's a better looking, more accurate gun than the Tactical (practical, not theoretical accuracy). Unless that threaded barrel really trips your trigger, take a long look at the Expert/Elite.
|07-06-2004, 11:31 PM||#18|
Join Date: Nov 2003
socom mag VS tactical USP mag.
is it possible to replace the mag. pad of my preban USP tactical so that it can be used in my socom pistol? thanks
|07-08-2004, 03:02 PM||#19|
Join Date: May 2004
Is the Expert the most accurate HK?
Wondering if the Expert is the most accurate HK. I know the P7 has the fixed barrel , but it is shorter and doesn't have the "O" ring. I've been thinking about getting one.
|08-03-2004, 04:10 PM||#20|
Join Date: Sep 2001
The Mk 23 was a dissapointment to me.
If you have the need to put a 230gr. slug into the CNS of a BG with minimal fuss--this is your weapon.
If you like cartoonishly large, slow cycling, muzzle flipping, DA/SA pistols with a high bore axis, a horrible trigger and a pathetic finish--this is your weapon.
If you like a fast cycling, low bore axis pistol with a consistent trigger pull--get a 1911, P7, or a Glock.
For the person who suggested that the Mk23 would be good for competition--shoot one and then you'll see what we're talking about.
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