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Old 10-06-2004, 08:45 AM   #1
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HK 45 what you think of them??

Looking to get a new 45acp. I like the looks of the HK full size and the compact. I like the DA/SA setup you can get. How is the quality compared to Colt or S&W?? Also how is the service department at HK?? This will be for shooting some IDPA shooting and a CCW gun. Any thoughts or recommendations for me???? Also in DA or SA mode how is the trigger pull?? Thanks Chuck
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Old 10-07-2004, 12:14 PM   #2
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Quality is good- if anything they are overbuilt for durability. That's good news, since getting parts is like pulling teeth if you're not a certified armorer. HK's service guys have courteous and professional in their attitudes with me, but so far my attempts to get some repair parts I need have been fruitless because HK has a middleman to deal with me. The only problem is that they can't seem to keep their middleman stocked with parts to sell, so my LEM has been in the safe for two months because I ruined a $4 spring (my fault).
Trigger is decent, but a bit creepy. HK is willing to sell you a $125 upgrade kit to make it better though.
Old 11-07-2004, 03:13 PM   #3
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I bought a secondhand USP 45 with approx 1500 rounds through it and a little holster wear. I put a set of new night sights on it and it shot dead on. I pumped another 400 rounds through it without a single failure to fire or feed. I compared it to my friend's Colt Commander and the felt recoil is noticably less due to it's twin recoil spring system. Compared to the weight of the all stainless Commander, the USP 45 was definetly lighter and the 12+1 capacity is great. The only drawback I see is the girth of the weapon I don't have the biggest hands, but I can still manage to hold it pretty well. I also like the variant #1 option and having the option to change the lever's function if I so chose. Overall, it's a very overbuilt weapon which I expect to get a lot of service life from.
Old 11-07-2004, 03:30 PM   #4
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If I were LE or didn't mind open-carrying, I would have kept
my USP 45....I had the right holster to conceal it, and I'm
large framed, but the drawback of size kept it at home more
often than not. The USP 45c I had, I liked better, but it too
was pretty chunky. As far as durability-top notch. Reliability-
again, no problems even with .45 Super loads, and lots of 'em.
Beauty? Barely edges out Glock, but still pretty homely. (who
cares-plastic guns have no soul....even if they are reliable 8) )
If they were a tad slimmer, I'd probably still have them.
Actions by T did the trigger on my compact, and brought the
double action down to 8 pounds, the single 4-and as crisp as
a plastic gun could be. Hope this helped.
Old 12-10-2004, 11:55 PM   #5
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HK reliability

Outstanding reliability..Money well spent on my HK Tactical 45..I also own a Colt 1911 and a Kimber 1911 with Series 1 equipment and the HK out-preforms them both any day of the week. Some people complain about the size of the HK over the standard 1911. Small price to pay for reliability. It never bothered me because I have bigger hands. I'm USMC 22 years (Retired) and have had plenty of range time over the years. You can't go wrong with an HK.
Old 12-30-2004, 05:00 PM   #6
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Excellent quality and outstanding reliability. I have a new USP .45F. I bought it as V1 and an HK Armorer switch it out to a V9. Now I carry it cocked and locked like my 1911's and do not have to worry about decocking it when I deactivate the thumb safety.

Oh, and yes, I bought and switched it to V9 Before Collateral came out.
Old 01-10-2005, 12:11 AM   #7
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I have two of them, one is the standard USP the other is a tactical, both have been completely reliable and both have seen some pretty hard use under some nasty conditions(soaked with water,crud and dirt in them from tracking through woods etc).I have to agree that getting parts suck...I am a certified armorer and still have to go through the hoops..luckily the only parts I ever needed were springs for the mags and recoil units. I keep the stadard usp as a backup in case my tactical goes down as it is my duty weapon and I know it might be awhile for certain parts.
Old 01-25-2005, 06:53 PM   #8
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Still looking?

If the USP in any variant fits your hand and you have decent trigger control skills, buy the thing before the price goes up yet again. My fullsize standard .45 has swallowed in excess of 5000 rounds now without a single malf.! It has never failed to feed fire or extract, no matter what it was fed for ammo.

I hate to hear from this forum that parts availability sucks... I have shot mine now enough that the flex in the plastic trigger drives me bugnuts. A side benefit of all those rounds is a clean 5.5 lb single action pull and 7.3 lb double action. Almost no finish wear (Safariland plastic belt holster) but not so for the mags which look like @#*!.

Function above form in all things.
Old 01-28-2005, 10:43 AM   #9
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The only problem and it is a problem is stated above. I love HK USP pistols period but won't own another until that company gets there customer service ironed out. I carried a USP 40 for duty for almost 2 years and had a 13 round mag wear out on me so when the slide was jacked it would fall out of the weapon. I called them and told them about my problem and if I could quote what I was told I would but I will just have to get close. "We don't do that anymore.” I then asked, Do What? “We don't offer repair or replacement on high-cap mags. If you would like we can replace it with a 10 round mag but not a high-cap.” I then asked if I provided proof that I was Law Enforcement would help me to get a new mag or to get the one fixed and I was told again “No you are on your own!!” And then he abruptly asked if there was anything else he could do for me. I told him he has only done one thing for me and it was not solve my problem but make sure that I sell the USP I have and never own another product form that company again. He said I am sorry you feel that way and hung up the phone on me. I never even raised my voice and that was the service I got. That is not a company that I wish to deal with. One thing is for sure, all guns will eventually run down, I don’t care who makes it. When it does, the total care that the company provides to help fix the problem is what makes a gun and there company reliable. HK is supposed to care for there customers for the life of the weapon. Glock and Sig does without question and are nice about it. Hope it helps and I did not bore you that much. 8)
Old 01-29-2005, 10:46 AM   #10
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It sounds like you talked to the untrained peon who works in the closet. Oh wait, that's all of them.
Get this: I had half a dozen conversations with a regional sales manager, who at various times referred me to 8 different companies for parts, only for me to call and find out that 5 of them didn't even carry HK products. The rest didn't have what I needed or either had a policy against selling to individuals. Then after 2 months of going back and forth, the guy offered to send what I needed. I said "Great." Two months and 10 unreturned phone calls later, his supervisor informed me that the reason I hadn't gotten my package was because Mr. Sales Manager had sent it to the wrong address...TWICE! And his tone indicated that he was offended at my aggravation over not having recieved them.

Over the course of four months, I was able to determine that if you bug them enough, eventually they'll make a half-hearted effort to satisfy you. But there is not a single employee there who is competent or motivated to handle small customer needs. I'll keep my LEM until it breaks, then I'll make it someone else's problem.

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