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Old 08-17-2013, 11:51 AM   #1
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The Pinnacle of Polymer Pistols: The HK45 Review with HD Video

Pinnacle of Polymer Pistols?
A Review with Video of the Heckler & Koch HK45

I have a man-crush on the .45ACP. What red-blooded American male wouldn’t? I mean, come on. It is the epitome of handgun cartridges that has seen America through two World Wars, one “police action” and … whatever the Vietnam Conflict was. Designed by the Über-Mensch of all gun designers: St. John Moses Browning, specifically for his iconic 1911 handgun, the .45ACP has been the “go to” round in the American handgun arsenal for over 100 years and it is still going strong.

When you start looking into polymer-framed .45ACP semi-autos you have a lot of choices. I have personally owned and used/reviewed and fired Sigs, Glocks, FNs, Berettas, but none of them, in my opinion, rises to the level of design and function that the HK 45 offers. And then, of course, you have Springfield’s line of imported Euro-handguns, S&W, Ruger, etc. etc.

Here are some thoughts about what I’ve shot so far, compared to the HK.

I do not like the fact that the Sig offers no external safety, thus giving you no option but to fire it from DA before you get to SA, if you choose to carry a round in the chamber. The SIG P220 has a very limited capacity, and you can get 10 rounds if you are ok carrying a gangly extended magazine with it. The SIG P227 has certainly caught my eye though, SIG’s first double-stack .45ACP. And, of course, SIG gives you an all metal construction. But, with it’s lack of external safety you therefore must master two trigger pulls, rather than one.

The FN .45 ACP DA/SA semi-autos (FNP and FNX) are fine pistols and have the distinct advantage of the largest stock capacity out there 15+1. That’s a whole lot of .45ACP love right there. I’ve owned them and used them. Great handguns, but the “feel” compare to the HK is very clear, well, almost kind of “cheap” in comparison to the HK. The HK is much tighter, and feels stronger. The trigger group in the FNX feels almost toy like. The HK is much more rugged and obviously built to tighter tolerances. The Glock 21 is a terrific handgun and is clearly the winner in striker-fire actions. Chamber a round into a Glock and it is “always on” … you supply the safety: trigger finger discipline and proper mental discipline. The Beretta PX Storm comes in .45ACP but the “backward” safety on the Berettas drives me nuts, though the build quality and ergonomics are great. And, hey, it’s a Beretta, very well built, just nothing for me other than a range gun.

The HK however offers the best of all worlds, in my view. You have a great external safety that has the best decocking mechanism I’ve run across yet. When you decock there is a clear “click” feel as you move it into decocking, something I have not found on anything else with a decocker. That tactical feedback is totally lacking on the FNX, etc. The trigger on the HK is nice and wide, offering the chance to get more of the tip of your finger on it, and making it easier to press the trigger back cleaning. The reset point on the HK trigger, stock, is not short enough, to my liking. The HK sights are crisp and visible, yellow in daylight, and glowing at night. The HK’s o-ring on the barrel allows for greater accuracy. It’s recoil spring is a monster. Clear the HK 45 has the best of the build features in its granddaddy, the HK MK23 or as I call it, “The Beast.”

Shooting it is very comfortable, the grip is nicely ergonomically formed and with adjustable backstraps you are able to get what suits you best. I found shooting it to be very easy. The recoil is very manageable. I’d have to give the nod to the SIG P220 for comfort in shooting the .45ACP though.

The major down-side of the HK 45 is its capacity: 10+1. Period. No extended magazines available. No base plates allowing more rounds. It is what it is, a 11 round capacity .45ACP. That alone may be the deciding factor for people wanting to have more rounds in the pistol: Glock offers more, and so does the FN platform, as previously mentioned.

But, arguably, you have the higest quality build out of the box from the H&K, hands down better than anything I’ve ever used. I have not tried out Springfields or S&W’s or Ruger’s line of .45ACP polymer handguns. Hope to some day. I may be blown away by them, but I highly doubt it.

The HK 45 is a great handgun and if you have a chance to shoot one, I think you’ll see what I’m talking about.

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… whatever the Vietnam Conflict was.
It was a war. Men died. Some didn't come home.
 
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that has seen America through two World Wars, one “police action” and … whatever the Vietnam Conflict was.
It was a war with no front lines. The enemy was in front of us...beside us...behind us...and among us. It was hot, dirty, ugly, and deadly. Anywhere we happened to be standing was dangerous, and anything that we did was subject to get us killed...including doing the right thing.

You might wanna go back and edit that statement, numb nuts.

As for the H&K pistol...I wasn't overly impressed with it. There's a reason that it's defunct.
 
 
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The sorriest, ugliest, least accurate, most unreliable handgun ever clutched in my sweatstained paws was an army issue 1911A1 in .45 ACP, of course.

The finish was gone and required half an hour each day to remove the daily accumulation of rust on the piece and worn out magazines. Time that could be better spend maintaining my single shot M-16 or maintenance on my trench foot.

One was required to carry it with a canvas mag pouch containing two rusty magazines filled with WWII vintage ammo. The leather holster was perpetually water soaked and weighted five pounds wet.

On a good day, you could fire two rounds before it jammed. Accuracy was minute of a 2 1/2 ton truck at 7 yards.

Even worse, no handgun would protect you from the things that were killing and maiming your fellow troops, namely mortar rounds, land mines and ambushes involving chicom claymores and well sited machine guns with good zones of grazing fire.

It was a great and joyous day when we were given the option of carrying this usless scrap metal. To a man, every single .45 was turned in to the 1st Sgt and sent back on the next chopper.

A much better use of the 7 or 8 pound burden of a useless weapon was th addition of a couple of magazines and couple more frags.

Backup weapon?? When the doo-doo really hits the fan, there will be a multitude of backup weapons laying on the ground all around you. You might have to move a body to get to it, but you have a good selection to choose from.
 
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I can't help but wonder how Heckler and Koch always seems to believe their version of the mousetrap is better (and more expensive) than everyone else's.

When Glocks could be had for $400 out the door, HK came along and offered a gun made out of the same materials for about $700 and up. But then this is no different than the pricing structure of the P-7 pistols back in the day, along with other guns from the company such as as the USC and old school HK-91, 92 and 94.
 
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Probably every H&K made will shoot better than I can hold it. However, I do not like doing business with them. It seems like they declare war on you when you buy one of their guns.

They definitely have an attitude when dealing with one of their customers. It is impossible to get parts and the cost of the magazines is obscene. They are the best, are never wrong, and never have to say sorry.
 
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They are the best, are never wrong, and never have to say sorry.
Kinda reminds me of a story I heard once about a Rolls Royce owner. Rich man.

His vintage Silver Phaeton had broken an axle, and he placed a call to a dealership a hundred miles away to have someone come and pick it up and take it in for repairs.

The next day, two gentlemen arrived, dressed to the nines, and asked him to direct them to the car. They took off their coats and ties...rolled up their sleeves...and replaced the axle.

When they were through with the job, the owner asked them what he owed for the repair. After all, it was a very old car.

The conversation went like this:

"How much for replacing that broken axle?"

"Which broken axle would that be, sir?"

"The broken axle in my Rolls."

"You must be mistaken, sir. Your Rolls didn't break an axle. Have a good day, sir."

Supposed to be a true story.
 
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Probably every H&K made will shoot better than I can hold it. However, I do not like doing business with them. It seems like they declare war on you when you buy one of their guns.

They definitely have an attitude when dealing with one of their customers. It is impossible to get parts and the cost of the magazines is obscene. They are the best, are never wrong, and never have to say sorry.



The notion that HK customer service is terrible is no longer true. I ordered
conversion parts to convert from LEM to DA/SA and in 3 days the parts were in my mailbox. I had ordered an HK45C that was not labeled correctly . HK
customer service ranks with the best.
 
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