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compman 06-01-2004 10:48 AM

North American Arms Guardian .32NAA is made by Kahr?
 
I was looking at an advertisment for this cool little pocketgun and it says made in partnership with Kahr. I also read an article about the .32NAA Magnum ammo and it moves at 1,453 fps, 192 ft. lbs. of energy. It penetrates 4 layers of denim and 8.3" of ballistic gelatin, expands to .55-inch mushroom with 100% weight retention. It has similar performance to a 9mm.

Does anybody have one of these? It is smaller than the PM9 and MK9 and looks very nice. I am surprised that it is made with Kahr. When looking at it you can see some resemblances in the grips and trigger. I am curious to how it shoots.

oldfella 06-01-2004 12:27 PM

Interesting. This marriage, NAA & Kahr must be a recent event... didn't know about it.

Drummer 06-01-2004 01:19 PM

My understanding is that all of the NAA autos have their frames cast, and possibly some other parts, by Kahr.

That is the extent of their relationship. There is no partnership, that I know of.

JCM298 06-01-2004 03:43 PM

My NAA 380 , bought NIB in 2002, had a Kahr stamp on it, hidden under one of the grips. Some writer mentioned that the frames are made for NAA by Kahr but it's not really a partnership.

Different gun makers make parts for other producers. Apparently, it's easier to "tool up" with CNC machines than it was in the old days,

John

harrydog 06-01-2004 04:45 PM

This is directly from the NAA website:

"The Guardian 380 ACP was developed in partnership with Kahr Arms, who continue to manufacture the frame and slides for us. Kahr Arms boasts a talented staff and produces parts and products of the highest quality. You'll see the Kahr Arms name stamped on your Guardian 380 ACP frame."

compman 06-02-2004 04:52 AM

Thanks Harrydog,

If Kahr manufacturers the frame and slide than IMO, that is most of the gun since Kahr doesn't make the other parts anyway. This is real interesting. The Guardian now comes in a .380 also, and I wonder if a 9mm is in the works? The ironic part of this partnership is from my research Kahr doesn't make their own frames. They design them but do not produce them.

JCM298,

How do you like your Guardian? The new Rohrbaugh looks a lot like it only 3 times the price. I like the fact that the guardian is all metal but is still a lighter than the MK9. If they build it in a 9mm, I think it could be a real contender.

compman 06-02-2004 04:52 AM

Thanks Harrydog,

If Kahr manufacturers the frame and slide than IMO, that is most of the gun since Kahr doesn't make the other parts anyway. This is real interesting. The Guardian now comes in a .380 also, and I wonder if a 9mm is in the works? The ironic part of this partnership is from my research Kahr doesn't make their own frames. They design them but do not produce them.

JCM298,

How do you like your Guardian? The new Rohrbaugh looks a lot like it only 3 times the price. I like the fact that the guardian is all metal but is still a lighter than the MK9. If they build it in a 9mm, I think it could be a real contender.

JCM298 06-02-2004 03:38 PM

compman,

I only had the NAA about a year. I sold it last year.

It was an accurate gun but it had a unique recoil. It twisted my wrist each time I shot it. I have a bad right wrist and the NAA really magnified the problem. I never had a problem with it, other than the strange recoil, and it fed all types of ammo, including my re-loads.

I thought it was heavy for its size/caliber and I finally decided to trade it when I bought a Smith 340SC, which is now my "always" gun. (Although the 340 kicks like a mule, it does not twist my wrist)

The NAA was well made, functioned properly, and was easy to conceal because of it's size. I thought it weighed more than is necessary for a .380.

I've owned a total of three NAA's and I think they make an excellent product,

John

compman 06-03-2004 11:03 AM

I have a 340pd, also. My barrel shroud came loose and I have to send it back. I'm pissed! The 340 kicks harder than any gun I have ever shot. It is also the loudest. I hope I never have to use it without earplugs.

Silverbullet 06-03-2019 09:00 PM

I have owned a .32 NAA since they first came out. Flawless. Back then it took me six months to get one and I paid over $500.00 for it. I have three extended mags which work out really great for my big hands. It extends the grip. Prior to the recent gel tests and velocity, it was already impressive. It goes with me everywhere where permitted. Only one thing I would change; in order to not have a manual safety, the trigger pull is a bit excessive. I would guess close to one inch. Id rather have a quicker trigger and manual safety. A lot of my target practice with pistols is with a Colt SAA in .45 cal. The entire pistol has been radically tweaked and the contrast in the two pound trigger on the Colt and the lengthy pull on the NAA is radical. You do get used to it although I have stated my preference. It is accurate to about 12 yards for me as a concealed carry weapon for personal defense and the two extra magazines gives me a lot of firepower downrange for a CC weapon! If you are thinking about owning one yourself, go for it. Im a lifelong shooter now aged 77 years.


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