Originally Posted by dfariswheel

Kahr hasn't fixed the magazines, because there is no problem.

The downward pointing top round is just a feature of the design and causes no problems.
All the Kahr pistols do this and most are very reliable.
People look at the downward pointing round and don't see that on other guns so they just decide that the magazines are defective.
If the magazine design was defective ALL Kahr pistols would jam constantly....They don't.

On the internet, you have to learn to be selective about what you believe, and who you believe.
A lot of what you'll see about guns is disgruntled customers who are angry and condemn everything about a brand, some who are just repeating what they've heard and don't even own the gun, and some outright fakery just to stir up trouble. Mixed in there are a few attempts to sabotage a brand because the poster has some sort of grudge.
It's common to see someone who got a bad gun, then takes every possible opportunity to run them down or damage their reputation by claiming the gun is a defective design or is poorly made.
You'll see people who may or may actually not have had a genuine problem, and when the company didn't meet their unreasonable demands, are attempting to punish the company by trying to convince people the guns or company are no good.
You'll recognize these people after someone posts something about a good experience or bad experience with a brand, and they quickly post about how rotten the gun is and often how you were a fool to buy one.

As with any gun of any cost, you'll see all kinds of problems on the internet.
The most problems in the Kahr's do appear to be the polymer framed guns but those are usually problems with the polymer frame itself.
The steel guns run very well.
You hear plenty of problems about Glock pistols, and every other brand.
As example the famous exploding Glock's.

As for reliability, no matter what gun or what the price, you simply buy one and see if it works. If it doesn't, you send it back to the company on their dime and let them fix it. This is no different than a new TV, a new car, or a new egg beater.

Some pointers about Kahr pistols:
Promag magazines are not good quality. With almost all of the micro-guns use ONLY genuine factory magazines.
While some people have luck with aftermarket mags, most don't, especially Promag.
The Kahr magazines are very high quality and specifically designed to work in their guns. These micro guns are operating right on the edge of what's possible in such a small package. Changing magazines or recoil springs is asking for trouble where none exists.
Micro guns are not like full sized guns. You can't play around with them this way because there's no room for variation.
Buy only Kahr mags.

The company is very clear that the gun requires a 200 round break in period, and a few need a little more. Most never give any problems from the first round. Don't be shocked if the gun gives some trouble in the first 200 rounds, but most don't.

The reason for loading from the slide lock is because you have a tiny, hard to grip gun with a very strong spring. Too many people try to "slingshot" the slide and simply fail to pull it all the way to the rear. Of course, they blame the gun or the "defective magazine" when it fails to feed.
After the gun gets broken in, most can be sling-shotted, but you have to make sure you pull the slide all the way back or it will fail to feed, just like any other gun.

You may have to experiment to find a brand and type of ammo your specific gun "likes". This is nothing new for any gun.
Too many people just decide their new gun WILL be used with a specific ammo, and when it won't work well, they blame the gun.
I've seen this many times. The owner says the gun is junk and trades it in. The new owner tries other ammo and has a 100% reliable gun.

The Kahr is a "people shooter" not a target gun or a range toy.
The only thing that counts is reliability. Too many people demand target gun accuracy and aren't happy when the Kahr won't shoot all 10's.

The Kahr has a trigger that was designed to feel like a S&W double action revolver. If you're used to 1911's or the modern short action guns, you may not like the Kahr at first.
The trigger is long and has a long return. That's how it was designed to work.
I tell people to shoot it like it's a revolver. You have to "learn" the Kahr trigger before you can shoot it fast or more accurately.
Too many people try the trigger and immediately start trying to install lighter springs or figure out how to shorten the reset. Result.... an unreliable gun.
If you want a lighter trigger or shorter reset... buy something else.

The Kahr is possibly this generations "Gold Standard" in a small micro defense gun. It's expensive, because the quality is high.
Many tens of thousands have been sold, and naturally some had problems.
As naturally, you seldom hear about all the tens of thousands that had no problems at all, but you hear constantly about the few who do.

If Kahr had "bad magazines" or any other constant design problem the company would have been out of business many years ago.
The fact that they're still in business, expanding and doing fine, and a lot of cops buy Kahr pistols, should tell you something.

The bottom line is, again, like ANY gun including the vaunted Glock, all brands will have problems with a small percentage. If you do, that's what the new gun warranty is for.
If it doesn't, you worried for nothing.

Last, you seem to have heavy reservations about the Kahr. Unless you can actually handle and fire one, possibly you shouldn't buy one.
If you're already sure Kahr has a defective magazine, even though they aren't, you'll probably start off not liking it, and the first bobble during break in will convince you it's no good.

Your choice.

Originally Posted by dave606

You are getting hot as if i am knocking your favorite pistol.