p32 ammo

Potgut · 09-28-2004, 04:11 PM

Would you go with JHP or FMJ "ball"?

oldgranpa · 09-28-2004, 07:58 PM

three options for carry ammo:

1. All JHP, such as Win Silvertip 60grJHP. However, there is what is known as rim lock with the standard magazine due to the JHP round is shorter than FMJ. (That is why the Seacamp .32 uses only Silvertip, the magazine is made for only JHP to avoid rimlock). So you would need a fix for the P32 known as a "FlyerWire". But then you can only use the magazine for JHP. yzguy has a web page that tells about the FlyerWire plus dozens of other things.

2. All FMJ. This option is voted best by many people. The JHP round often doesn't expand in this small caliber. When it does expand, penetration is low. FMJ always penetrates well without overpenetrating. With any .32cal round, placement and shooting more than one round is going to be important anyway, so FMJ is a good choice.

3. My personal carry is one JHP in the chamber and one JHP on the top of the magazine, rest in magazine are FMJ. That way I get 2 shots that might expand and do more damage, no rim lock problem, and FMJ follow up shots if the first 2 aren't enough (assuming the BG is not on top of me).
With this I can still use the magazine with all FMJ for target practice.

Maybe there is 4th option. Does anyone know? The choice is yours.

You can see my "unballistic" terminal tests with .32acp ammo at
http://www.ktrange.com/articles/a10/a10.html
check items 11 and 16.
Cheers,
og

John_Knoxville · 09-30-2004, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldgranpa

My personal carry is one JHP in the chamber and one JHP on the top of the magazine, rest in magazine are FMJ.

granpa, do you carry a spare magazine? how do you stock the spare? thanks

oldgranpa · 09-30-2004, 07:48 PM

good question, John, most everyone trys to carry a spare. Being old, I don't venture into hazardous areas hardly at all anymore. Most hazardous place I go to is WalMart, sure you know what I mean. There are parts of this town with very bad reputation and I stay away from there. Since I'm retired I don't have to worry about a dark parking lot after work anymore either. So my P32 is just a little friend in the pocket, completely concealed, even at church. Therefore, forgive me, only one magazine goes with me. Remember rule 1 is to avoid confrontation and leave the area. If needed, the P32 is only to help me leave the area.

Now, if my wife and I go on a trip out of town, the P32 stays at home, it isn't even my BUG. Primary becomes a .357Magnum revolver loaded with GoldenSaber on the car seat and backup in my pocket is my Kahr PM9. Most dangerous places on a trip I've been to are the interstate rest stops. Worst are when crossing the state of Louisiana that I've seen. Really scary. P32 wouldn't do any good if a BG chose me as a target.

Not a very good answer to your question. I guess if I had to carry a spare magazine, I'd have it full of FMJ with maybe one JHP on top.

What's your thoughts on this?

og

John_Knoxville · 10-01-2004, 07:09 AM

i have no first-hand experience with rimlock, but IIRC others have said you can safely load two jhp in spare, beyond that the risk arises

spare conceals so easily, however, not sure why you wouldn't rather have 15 "helpers" to assist you leaving instead of 8; remember, if you pull it out at all, legally, you are already facing a near life-or-death situation; with it being one of the weaker rounds, i wouldn't want to be conserving bullets

Flyer, Airborne · 10-01-2004, 03:21 PM

Nope, you can NOT load two jhp in a mag without the potential risk of rimlock.
The possibility will always exist that the top round's rim will hop over the one underneath it.
For what it's worth I think Silvertips are the way to go with the P-32, both in the chamber and the magazines.
Flyer

Gazpacho · 10-01-2004, 09:38 PM

1 Corbon in the pipe
1 Corbon at the top of the magazine
7 Sellier & Bellot filling the rest of the magazine.

I like the added control the 1rd magazine extension gives me.

gun_nut_2k2001 · 10-02-2004, 09:26 PM

I go with the "Hot FMJ" type minded people. My carry ammo is Geco 32.ACP and S&B for practice. Just picked up some of this RWS made by the same company as Geco.

John_Knoxville · 10-04-2004, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyer, Airborne

Nope, you can NOT load two jhp in a mag without the potential risk of rimlock.
The possibility will always exist that the top round's rim will hop over the one underneath it.

thanks, original flyer....BTW, does .32NAA present the possibility of rimlock?

shermlab · 10-04-2004, 06:40 PM

I carry mine loaded with Federal Hydra-shoks, and I fired 200 through the weapon before I decided to do so. I have never had one malfunction in the life of the pistol, which has been exactly 450 rounds to date.

09-28-2004, 04:11 PM	#1
Potgut Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 62	Ammo for the P32? Would you go with JHP or FMJ "ball"?

09-28-2004, 07:58 PM	#2
oldgranpa Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 39	three options..... three options for carry ammo: 1. All JHP, such as Win Silvertip 60grJHP. However, there is what is known as rim lock with the standard magazine due to the JHP round is shorter than FMJ. (That is why the Seacamp .32 uses only Silvertip, the magazine is made for only JHP to avoid rimlock). So you would need a fix for the P32 known as a "FlyerWire". But then you can only use the magazine for JHP. yzguy has a web page that tells about the FlyerWire plus dozens of other things. 2. All FMJ. This option is voted best by many people. The JHP round often doesn't expand in this small caliber. When it does expand, penetration is low. FMJ always penetrates well without overpenetrating. With any .32cal round, placement and shooting more than one round is going to be important anyway, so FMJ is a good choice. 3. My personal carry is one JHP in the chamber and one JHP on the top of the magazine, rest in magazine are FMJ. That way I get 2 shots that might expand and do more damage, no rim lock problem, and FMJ follow up shots if the first 2 aren't enough (assuming the BG is not on top of me). With this I can still use the magazine with all FMJ for target practice. Maybe there is 4th option. Does anyone know? The choice is yours. You can see my "unballistic" terminal tests with .32acp ammo at http://www.ktrange.com/articles/a10/a10.html check items 11 and 16. Cheers, og

09-30-2004, 07:48 PM	#4
oldgranpa Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 39	spare magazine good question, John, most everyone trys to carry a spare. Being old, I don't venture into hazardous areas hardly at all anymore. Most hazardous place I go to is WalMart, sure you know what I mean. There are parts of this town with very bad reputation and I stay away from there. Since I'm retired I don't have to worry about a dark parking lot after work anymore either. So my P32 is just a little friend in the pocket, completely concealed, even at church. Therefore, forgive me, only one magazine goes with me. Remember rule 1 is to avoid confrontation and leave the area. If needed, the P32 is only to help me leave the area. Now, if my wife and I go on a trip out of town, the P32 stays at home, it isn't even my BUG. Primary becomes a .357Magnum revolver loaded with GoldenSaber on the car seat and backup in my pocket is my Kahr PM9. Most dangerous places on a trip I've been to are the interstate rest stops. Worst are when crossing the state of Louisiana that I've seen. Really scary. P32 wouldn't do any good if a BG chose me as a target. Not a very good answer to your question. I guess if I had to carry a spare magazine, I'd have it full of FMJ with maybe one JHP on top. What's your thoughts on this? og

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10-01-2004, 07:09 AM	#5
John_Knoxville Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 19	i have no first-hand experience with rimlock, but IIRC others have said you can safely load two jhp in spare, beyond that the risk arises spare conceals so easily, however, not sure why you wouldn't rather have 15 "helpers" to assist you leaving instead of 8; remember, if you pull it out at all, legally, you are already facing a near life-or-death situation; with it being one of the weaker rounds, i wouldn't want to be conserving bullets

10-01-2004, 03:21 PM	#6
Flyer, Airborne Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 11	Nope, you can NOT load two jhp in a mag without the potential risk of rimlock. The possibility will always exist that the top round's rim will hop over the one underneath it. For what it's worth I think Silvertips are the way to go with the P-32, both in the chamber and the magazines. Flyer

10-01-2004, 09:38 PM	#7
Gazpacho Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 23	1 Corbon in the pipe 1 Corbon at the top of the magazine 7 Sellier & Bellot filling the rest of the magazine. I like the added control the 1rd magazine extension gives me.

10-02-2004, 09:26 PM	#8
gun_nut_2k2001 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 13	I go with the "Hot FMJ" type minded people. My carry ammo is Geco 32.ACP and S&B for practice. Just picked up some of this RWS made by the same company as Geco.

10-04-2004, 06:40 PM	#10
shermlab Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 29	I carry mine loaded with Federal Hydra-shoks, and I fired 200 through the weapon before I decided to do so. I have never had one malfunction in the life of the pistol, which has been exactly 450 rounds to date.