pros and cons of using sprinco

rocknrollrjm · 02-27-2002, 01:25 AM

If a shockbuff can really help preserve the life of my gun than I'm interested in using them. I've heard people say that they have 30,000 rnds through thier gun with no shockbuff and they have no damage to thier gun.
It seems like the best use of one would be if you're running a lighter recoil spring, is this the case? I'm running the stock spring that came with my gold combat and I don't think I would go with anything heavier, it's pretty stiff as it is, maybe if I was shooting hot loads.

If anyone can voice thier opinion either for or against. I'd love to hear the negatives equally with the positives

mnealtx · 02-28-2002, 12:29 PM

Howdy Jim... if you use the 'search' function and look, there's a TON of threads on shock buffs. I think most everyone on the board has chimed in on one or another of the threads...

...'cept me, I haven't tried 'em yet. :grin:

glock_man_10mm · 02-28-2002, 01:55 PM

They are good if you use hot loads. other than that moste 1911s will handle ordinary amunition just fine without them but for only $6 every 3000 rounds or so, why not. It's one of those "just in case" kind of things. I use them in my 1911 and Glocks just for extra insurence, you know.

Good shooting,
Russ

Jerry45 · 03-01-2002, 09:56 AM

I use them in the Kimbers that I compete with and I’ve never had a problem. With that said, I don’t use them in my carry weapon. Murphy’s Law you know!

RdB · 03-01-2002, 12:20 PM

One negative I experience in my Kimber is when I have a Shok-Buff installed, I can't drop the slide on a fresh mag by pulling and releasing the slide. I MUST use the slide release.

Russ

Jerry45 · 03-01-2002, 01:54 PM

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On 2002-03-01 12:20, RdB wrote:
One negative I experience in my Kimber is when I have a Shok-Buff installed, I can't drop the slide on a fresh mag by pulling and releasing the slide. I MUST use the slide release.

Russ

Yep, all full size Kimbers are like that. Another reason not to use one in a carry gun.

amack · 03-02-2002, 02:55 AM

"One negative I experience in my Kimber is when I have a Shok-Buff installed, I can't drop the slide on a fresh mag by pulling and releasing the slide. I MUST use the slide release.

Russ"

They do call it a "slide release" for a reason. :wink: I have a shock buff on my Pro Carry, never had a problem. It takes the edge off the recoil and hopefully protects the aluminum frame. I've got prolly 1k rounds on this one and have not had any problems w/ the exception of some wolf ammo that I tried.

TimB92020 · 03-02-2002, 04:01 AM

Beware of using a shock buff in the Kimber Pro Carry/Compact models with the 4 inch barrels. I tried a Wilson shock buff in my compact and the last coil of the recoil spring (towards the rear of the pistol) deformed outward, and put a ding in the rear of the recoil spring plug when it got pinched between the plug and the guide rod head during recoil. The ding was significant enough to make the end of the plug slightly out of round.

Granted, this was with a Wolff spring (it says on the package NOT to use a shock buff)but it still cost me a recoil spring plug. This occurred after only a few hundred rounds.

FWIW, I was just trying out the buffer because I had used them in longer guns, and previously owned an even smaller Officer's ACP that functioned fine with them.

After replacing the spring and plug I noticed no problems using full power ammo without the buff. Not sure why I bothered in the first place.

-Tim

Mushinto · 03-03-2002, 07:16 PM

I used Wilson Shock buffs regularly for years. One time, my Commander started malfunctioning for no reason after being perfect for two years. It drove me crazy after I stripped the gun and could not find anything wrong. Local gunsmith even re-polished the ramp to a mirror shine and it still FTF'd every time. Eventually, we found that the shock buff (which was fairly new) had a developed a hairline crack in it. Since it did not look worn, we didn't suspect that it was the problem. After removing the buff, the pistol functioned perfectly.
From then on, I use the shock buffs for practice, but remove them for carry.
ML

Andy · 03-04-2002, 12:00 AM

Well, I shot an IPSC match with my trusty KZ45 about three weeks ago and had a couple FTFs. Took the gun apart and found the culprit: the Shok-Buff had cookie-cuttered, leaving a strip of plastic doing JMB-knows-what in the slide. I took it out and am running just the plastic short r/s guide rod now. It acts just like a shok-buff, and has no visible wear.

I bought a bunch more of these, even if nobody else likes 'em. Makes more sense than the shok-buff unless you're running a f/l guide rod.

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02-27-2002, 01:25 AM	#1
rocknrollrjm Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 98	If a shockbuff can really help preserve the life of my gun than I'm interested in using them. I've heard people say that they have 30,000 rnds through thier gun with no shockbuff and they have no damage to thier gun. It seems like the best use of one would be if you're running a lighter recoil spring, is this the case? I'm running the stock spring that came with my gold combat and I don't think I would go with anything heavier, it's pretty stiff as it is, maybe if I was shooting hot loads. If anyone can voice thier opinion either for or against. I'd love to hear the negatives equally with the positives

02-28-2002, 12:29 PM	#2
mnealtx Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 163	Howdy Jim... if you use the 'search' function and look, there's a TON of threads on shock buffs. I think most everyone on the board has chimed in on one or another of the threads... ...'cept me, I haven't tried 'em yet. :grin:

02-28-2002, 01:55 PM	#3
glock_man_10mm Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6	They are good if you use hot loads. other than that moste 1911s will handle ordinary amunition just fine without them but for only $6 every 3000 rounds or so, why not. It's one of those "just in case" kind of things. I use them in my 1911 and Glocks just for extra insurence, you know. Good shooting, Russ

03-01-2002, 09:56 AM	#4
Jerry45 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 44	I use them in the Kimbers that I compete with and I’ve never had a problem. With that said, I don’t use them in my carry weapon. Murphy’s Law you know!

03-01-2002, 12:20 PM	#5
RdB Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 50	One negative I experience in my Kimber is when I have a Shok-Buff installed, I can't drop the slide on a fresh mag by pulling and releasing the slide. I MUST use the slide release. Russ

03-02-2002, 02:55 AM	#7
amack Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 27	"One negative I experience in my Kimber is when I have a Shok-Buff installed, I can't drop the slide on a fresh mag by pulling and releasing the slide. I MUST use the slide release. Russ" They do call it a "slide release" for a reason. :wink: I have a shock buff on my Pro Carry, never had a problem. It takes the edge off the recoil and hopefully protects the aluminum frame. I've got prolly 1k rounds on this one and have not had any problems w/ the exception of some wolf ammo that I tried.

03-02-2002, 04:01 AM	#8
TimB92020 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: WA Posts: 218	Beware of using a shock buff in the Kimber Pro Carry/Compact models with the 4 inch barrels. I tried a Wilson shock buff in my compact and the last coil of the recoil spring (towards the rear of the pistol) deformed outward, and put a ding in the rear of the recoil spring plug when it got pinched between the plug and the guide rod head during recoil. The ding was significant enough to make the end of the plug slightly out of round. Granted, this was with a Wolff spring (it says on the package NOT to use a shock buff)but it still cost me a recoil spring plug. This occurred after only a few hundred rounds. FWIW, I was just trying out the buffer because I had used them in longer guns, and previously owned an even smaller Officer's ACP that functioned fine with them. After replacing the spring and plug I noticed no problems using full power ammo without the buff. Not sure why I bothered in the first place. -Tim

03-03-2002, 07:16 PM	#9
Mushinto Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Melbourne, Florida Posts: 135	I used Wilson Shock buffs regularly for years. One time, my Commander started malfunctioning for no reason after being perfect for two years. It drove me crazy after I stripped the gun and could not find anything wrong. Local gunsmith even re-polished the ramp to a mirror shine and it still FTF'd every time. Eventually, we found that the shock buff (which was fairly new) had a developed a hairline crack in it. Since it did not look worn, we didn't suspect that it was the problem. After removing the buff, the pistol functioned perfectly. From then on, I use the shock buffs for practice, but remove them for carry. ML

03-04-2002, 12:00 AM	#10
Andy Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 283	Well, I shot an IPSC match with my trusty KZ45 about three weeks ago and had a couple FTFs. Took the gun apart and found the culprit: the Shok-Buff had cookie-cuttered, leaving a strip of plastic doing JMB-knows-what in the slide. I took it out and am running just the plastic short r/s guide rod now. It acts just like a shok-buff, and has no visible wear. I bought a bunch more of these, even if nobody else likes 'em. Makes more sense than the shok-buff unless you're running a f/l guide rod.