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Old 03-30-2004, 05:45 PM   #11
 
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At my agency (Sacramento County Sheriff's Dept) we carry the new Sig 226 (rail) in 40 Cal or 9mm. Off-duty we can carry anything we want. A great policy...
 
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Old 04-01-2004, 01:05 PM   #12
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Beretta 96 with 180 grain Gold Dots on duty. Anything we want off duty.
 
Old 08-01-2004, 04:24 AM   #13
 
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Thought that I would chime in here. My department issues the Smith and Wesson 5946 with 147gr sub-sonic ammo. We are in the process of switching to either the Sig Pro 2009 (9mm) or the Glock 19/17 (9mm). Off duty we can only have (1) gun, although it can be anything bewteen .380 and 45. The problem is, is that this gun, while being an off duty gun also has to double as a back-up if needed. We can't seem to get the current thinkers to come off of this (1) additional gun rule.
 
 
Old 08-02-2004, 05:09 AM   #14
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I do not understand why any department would try and take away right to carry from there officers by limiting what weapons they can carry. My question to all the states and departments with limits on what they can and can't carry is do you have a CCW law, and are there the same restrictions on the CCW's? That is a load of crap. If you are authorized to carry an off duty weapon it should be of you’re choosing and size. I am glad my state is not like that (Missouri). We can and do carry what we feel comfortable carrying. I carry a range of several different handguns depending what the dress is will determine the size of off duty weapon. No, not designer weapons but cloths fit differently and some weapons may not be appropriate for some outfits. My weapons range from a 9mm to a 44spl. That means 9mm, .40s&w, .45acp, 357sig&mag, 44spl.
I think there are some departments that need to change some polices. Most of the officers that carry off duty carry there own weapon and ammo so the department does not even worry about it. Just as long as they are proficient with there skills with that weapon that is all that matters. Just my opinion, that’s all. 8)
 
Old 08-02-2004, 06:06 AM   #15
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Off Duty

Our department allows off-duty carry of any revolver/pistol of 38/9mm or 40 S&W. #57 must carry 38 Specials only. In a urban area we must be concened about the type of weapon our officers are allowed to carry.

Very few of our officers even care about the type of weapons they are allowed to carry. It's hard enough to get them to qualify twice a year..

Capt. Richard Scalzo
Secaucus Police Dept.
Secaucus, NJ :cry:
 
Old 08-02-2004, 07:02 AM   #16
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I can understand about the urban area being a factor of the cal. of the weapon but there are several cals that do not over penetrate. I do not know anything about your area and what the criminals arm themselves with but we as a whole need to make sure that we do not underarm our LE. I know that in my area there is rural and urban and we are also the #1 meth producing state in the US. That means a large amount of criminals in the urban areas and a large amount in the rural areas producing and stealing what they need to produce meth. The most common weapons that the officers will likely come across are shotguns and hunting rifles. We all need good weapons and ammo that can serve both purposes. This also concerns the training aspects. RCBD ammo is probably ideal for your area but not very cost effective. But you can turn a .38 spl into a high power rifle with no added pressure and hardly any risk of over penetration or ricochet. Still the cost of the ammo and training would be out of reach unless a quantity deal could be worked out. The ballistics of the 38spl is 1705 fps / 385 flbs. You can get the 40s&w with 2100 fps / 754 flbs or a 9mm with 2010 fps / 539 flbs. This ammo gives you the freedom to not worry about over penetration or ricochet. All the officers have to worry about is hitting the target.
 
Old 08-02-2004, 01:44 PM   #17
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Carry Wepons

On Duty weapons are limited to several models of S&W 9mm or 40cal.
Very few agencies in this area have varied from those cals. One or two have gone or 357SIG. or 45ACP. Those agencies are probably less than 5 percent of the state.

Capt. Richard Scalzo
Secaucus Police Dept.
Secaucus, NJ
 
Old 08-08-2004, 06:24 AM   #18
 
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We have officers in our department that carry the Kel-Tec .32 cals as back up and off duty. In this part of the world we wear shorts and t-shirts ten months out of the year and they find this as easier to conceal. I have had as much luck carrying my Star Firestar .40 or my little 2 inch Taurus .357 mag off duty. The guys with the Kel-Tec's carry them clipped to the inside of their waste band or in their pocket...usually as a last ditch back up to their regular off duty gun.
 
Old 08-17-2004, 10:58 AM   #19
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Just did a survey of our Deputies and 99% carry what I would call a large caliber off duty and the majority of them carry the 1911 in a .45 acp the rest are .40 S&W and about 3 nines. Two of the .40 S&W calibers are in 1911's. I carry all sorts of weapons off duty. I have to admit I have been carring a Glock 19 stuffed with about 16 127 +P+ Ranger Ts lately and have been pretty comfortable. Man, that weapon and the Glock 23 may be my favorite weapons of all times. Big time power, capacity, and accuracy. But back to the point, the Deputies carry what they want and the PD carry pretty much what they want but lean toward the .40S&W in a glock of some kind. 8)
 
Old 09-04-2004, 05:40 PM   #20
 
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Off duty carry

The agency I work for in Georgia mandates that an off duty weapon has to be chambered for a round larger then .38/9mm and that the first round has to be fired double action(so that negates a single stack 1911). Since we carry the .40 caliber Glock family most officers carry a sub compact .40 caliber Glock 27. Uniform carries Glock 22's, Detectives(with the exception of me and the SWAT guys) Glock 23's, SWAT carry Glock 35's. The issue round is Winchester 180 grain SXT.
Even though all of the other detectives assigned to the division carry Glock 23's I chose to carry a Glock 22 because I liked the larger pistol. For off duty carry I flip flop between my 22 and a SIG 229 .40 caliber with CORBON 165 grain hollowpoints. I love both of them so generally which ever pistol I lay hands on first is the one I carry that day.
 
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