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Old 04-24-2004, 08:50 AM   #1
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Best "limited production" 1911

Which of the "big 3" (Baer, Brown, Wilson) do u consider to be the best in terms of fit, finish & reliability? Also, which has the best customer service? Please try to be objective in your assessments.
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Old 04-24-2004, 09:46 AM   #2
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I would take a Les Baer Premier model. I would rate this pistol excellent in all of your categories. I'll never go back to the others. Just my humble opinion!
Old 04-24-2004, 10:51 AM   #3
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Everything is relative to the retail price (not what someone can find them for somewhere) of the gun after have sold them for about way to many years and listening to folks who know guns as well as those who think they do. Mahy folks will compare a maker's gun of one style with another makers gun of another style. Meaning a blue full size should not be compared to a stainless commander to another makers stainless upper with polymer lower. If you compare, try to compare for example a stainless full size Baer to a full size stainless Wilson to a full size stainless Brown for what you want with features, finish and whatever you are trying to compare. Some try to compare a blue Baer with a Polymer Wilson with a stainless Brown.

Just something to think about in your quest for the perfect gun for you.
Old 04-25-2004, 12:46 PM   #4
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Fit, finish and reliability, quite a trio of worms there.

Some designs like the 8 shot Stinger size from Baer are more prone to reliability problems than a 7 shot mil spec full size gun irregardless of maker.

Finish is a subjective thing. Camo style finishes are pretty ugly in my book, but they may be very well executed, so personal preference plays a huge roll there.

I've seen loose guns shoot the pants off of tight ones , and tight ones run more reliably then some that were not as tight.

Keep in mind also that as one respected smith on this site told me once, anyone that claims total reliability over mor than 5000 rounds with any 1911 style probably suffers from some sort of short or long term memory loss. :lol:

My customer service experience is with Les Baer only, and it's OK but nothing to write home about and rave. But you know what? I bet every maker at some time or other falls on their butt with someone. It's just the nature of the beast when you deal with the public at large. I do have the feeling however, from reading, that Baer could make some improvements.
Old 04-25-2004, 01:57 PM   #5
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To me, it would be a tie between a Brown and a Wilson. Both produce great 1911s, and I have not had any problems with either. I personally have never had to deal with Brown's customer service, so I cannot comment there. I have, however, had to deal with Wilson's customer service on several occasions (and it was not because of the problems with their guns), and they always treated me well and went above and beyond their duty.
Old 04-25-2004, 08:53 PM   #6
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From my experience..

I prefer Baer 1911's...I currently own four...

I owned a Wilson CQB, although a very nice pistol, I still prefer the Baers.
The wilson is now gone..

EB...never owned one..Not interested in pursuing one at the moment as my Baer's do all I need and more...

Old 04-26-2004, 03:47 AM   #7
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I have a Wilson CQB which I like very much. I have nearly 5,000 rounds thru it and it looks and shoots just as good as the day I first fired it.
The only malfunctions I've had, and they are very few, were 100% ammo related, not the fault of the pistol.

I just bought an Ed Brown Kobra Carry. Very well made, looking pistol. I only have 390 rounds thru it so far but it's definitely a keeper. It doesn't like SWC bullets but that's not a problem for me.

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I don't own a Baer pistol and wouldn't buy one. It's a personal thing for me. Nuff said. :wink:
Old 04-26-2004, 05:45 AM   #8
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Since we are dealing with semi-custom only the only manuf. I have never had a failure with or had a customer service problem with is Les Baer. My TRS has gone through two academies without failure while a CQB went down the first day . It promptly was sold. I now have 4 Baers and none have failed yet.
Old 07-01-2004, 12:32 AM   #9
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fit, finish & reliability
clear vote for any of the Rock River Arms line even if they are not limited production but custom guns since they make them completely after the specs you give them. I love mine and I doubt that a gun can be any better (maybe better looking, but not better working), more reliable or more accurate. I NEVER heard about problems with them but heard about problems with any of the makers you named.
Old 07-01-2004, 05:29 PM   #10
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What!! No mention of Valtro?

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