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Old 05-02-2010, 09:03 AM   #1
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Thinking about a new gun

I got a little windfall comin my way. Some of it will be used to fund a gun purchase, the rest will go in my 'reptile fund', that is secret(from my high maintenance trophy bride) fund to be used for slimy and nefarious purposes. That is the definition of expenditures for any thing that a man would enjoy, according to my high maintenance trophy bride.

Has anyone got any experience with the Colt reproduction Series 70. I had a bad experience with two of the original S70s, but understand that the reproduction is a custom shop job. I have handled them but never shot one.

Any feedback from owners?
 
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Old 05-02-2010, 09:41 AM   #2
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The reports vary from "Outstanding!" to "Disappointed." The reasons range from nitpicky finish issues to actual functional problems. The first category doesn't concern me much. If I bought one, it wouldn't take long for any blemishes to blend into the character marks. You'd never know they were ever there. None of my 1911 pistols are pretty. They all get used...hard.

Functional problems are much more of a concern. Not for me so much, because I can fix'em. For others...it can be a pain in the patoot. Colt is pretty good with warranty work, if a little slow at times. The reports are generally good, though. Not many geniune complaints over real issues. I think it's a little overpriced, but when you're buying a Colt, you're paying a hundred bucks for the name and the horsie. I don't mind that so much, because after all...If it's not a Colt, it's just a copy.

Colt does offer the distinct advantage of not having as many MIM parts as most other clones and copies. The hammer is blanked, finish machined steel, and the 2-piece steel triggers are silver-soldered instead of being staked or pinned. Colt's MIM parts do seem to be of high quality, and have on average proven to be very durable in the long run.

Incidentally...They're not really Series 70 repros. They're pre-Series 70 reissues. Series 70 was defined by the collet bushing and accurizer barrel...which is a Colt trademark. The "Accurizer" barrel led to to the present state of the art barrels that are on virtually every 1911 Pattern pistol on the market. Slightly modified, with a shorter enlarged area at the muzzle...but a direct spinoff of the design.

While we're on the subject of Series 70...just FYI...There is no such thing as a Series 70 Commander or Combat Commander. Colt never produced one. All Series 70 pistols were 5-inch guns. Government Model or Gold Cup.

Series 70 is also a Colt trademark. Hence, there are no Series 70 Springfields or Kimbers or Rock Islands.
 
Old 05-02-2010, 02:30 PM   #3
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Any other guns you would look at?

I have had Wilson and currently own a Les Baer. It only gets shot indoors or under cover outdoors when the weather is nice.

I want the classic look. Springfield Mil-Spec has the look but maybe I am looking for something a little 'higher end'

The .45 that I shoot most often is a 1991 done up at the GunSite smithy. I took a course there in 95 and bought one of the guns done up Ted Yost in the Smithy. It is a good gun indeed, but has a beavertail grip safety, commander hammer and Novak sights. Not the classic look though.
 
 
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When the GI Mil-Spec appeard on the scene, I bought one out of curiosity. It shot well enough, and function was good, though I got bonked in the head with empty brass a lot. Finally wound up replacing the extractor and ejector before I could get it to stop.

All the internals and small parts are MIM or investment castings, but they seem to be okay as long as you don't try to shoot it 10,000 rounds a year. The extractor is steel, but Springfield had some bad ones a few years back. Don't know if any of those are still in the pipeline, but at the first sign of extractor trouble...just order a Wilson Heavy-Duty and be done with it. Heavy Duty...Not Bulletproof. A little better extractor and a buck cheaper from Brownells.

I saw a guy in a gun store boost the hammer on one to smooth up the trigger, and rolled the hooks off of it. Luckily, I had a take-off hammer, and replaced it before the boss got back. A guy at the range I use had a hammer snap off amidships at approximately roundcount 5,000...so it could be a problem. MIM doesn't do well in impact applications.

Seen a couple of the 2-piece barrels separate, but it's not a common problem.

After I torture-tested mine...with surprisingly good results, I might add...I went ahead and replaced the barrel with a Kart, and the internals and various small parts with some of the dwindling lot of NOS USGI parts that I've been hoardin' for years. The gun is now solid and reliable and I'd trust it without a thought. In pure stock form...it's fine as long as the old adage "Carried a lot and seldom shot" is observed.

If I wanted the classic look and the best quality without havin' to spend money on it...I'd go with the Colt and pay the tariff. If you want the classic look and don't mind a project gun that you gotta throw money at...The Springfield ain't a bad choice. It's just not the gun that the Colt is.
 
Old 05-02-2010, 07:25 PM   #5
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Two years ago, I had a Norinco done up just the way I wanted. A friend who is an outstanding smith down in Mississippi did the work. It is a dream to shoot, but it ain't a colt. Seems to the the 70 repro has everything I want in a 1911.

The Springfield Mil-Spec has the right look, but I would start replacing stuff real quick. No matter how much discipline you start out with, that become a moneysink.

Here is the Nork. By the time I finished, I had more money it it that a new S70 reproduction.

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Old 05-03-2010, 04:44 AM   #6
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cohee.....YOU LIKE CLASSIC.....If You haven't seen them yet , go to CASPIANs' web page and look at the CLASSIC frames and slides , these are 1911 CLASSIC as You can get , get all the "PARTS" , ease over to John T.s , I'll try to meet up with Yaw'll , in a days time You will be shootin' CLASSIC

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Billy...If yer headed this way, bring summa that damn Cajun coffee when ya come. A guy down in East Texas sent me four bricks last fall, and besides that...I ain't had a drop since I used up the last of what you brought.
 
Old 05-03-2010, 06:05 PM   #8
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Bill,

I onst saw a GI retro done up by a fellow named Jess Gylpin with Caspian frame and slide. It flung such a cravin on me that I had to have one just like it. I like my Nork and I appreciate what my old foxhole buddy from Viet Nam did to it, but I wish it was a Colt.

Is Jess still around? Think his trade name was On Target or something like that
 
Old 05-03-2010, 06:12 PM   #9
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JohnnyT,

In August, me and Booger are going to Costa Rica. Those folks sure are friendly and sure have good coffee and rum.

I am taking Booger to see the Blue Marlin Bar in the Hotel DelRay. I have been there dozens of times. There is supposed to be a mounted blue marlin taken of the Costa Rican coast that is 42 feet long. Many times as I been there, I ain't seen it yet. Every time I go in that wicked place, there are about 200 nice young ticas lining the walls smilin real big and being most friendly. Never got my gaze above chest level. Maybe one to these days.

Iffin I remember, I will pick up a kilo of their incredible coffee. They do it up filter syle like we do, but it is about triple strength without being bitter.

The land of eternal springtime and La Pura vida.

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