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Old 02-02-2018, 03:22 PM   #1
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F2F. 1911 RIA TAC Ultra 10mm

hey guys, I purchased a VZ 1911 TAC Ultra FS from RIA in 10 mm. I am having F2F issues. it wont take the first round from the mag or any number of them until I get the round count down to about 4 in the mag. It seems once its down to about 4 rounds it will eat the round and seat it in the chamber. It is also leaving deep scratches on the rim of the casing. The rounds seem to be resting on a part of the frame that is milled directly into the frame and sits above the stack in the magazine. kind of a dog leg shaped or L part . I cant find the name of it in any schematic but if you take off the slide it sits opposite the extractor. so thoughts? seems to be some spring tension in the mag is my first guess. thanks for your help guys.
 
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Old 02-02-2018, 04:12 PM   #2
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You paid for a good gun and didn't get it.
Send it back to RIA and make them correct it on their dime.

Contact them and ask to have a pickup notice or shipping label sent to you so you don't have to pay shipping for their problem.
Usually they can either have UPS pick it up or email you a label to print out.

Don't alter or attempt to correct it yourself or you'll void the warranty and have to pay to have it repaired.
 
Old 02-02-2018, 08:02 PM   #3
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That sounds like solid advice. I will be contacting them. any chance you might know what would be causing the issue to begin with , from a curiosity's sake stand point?
 
 
Old 02-03-2018, 11:20 AM   #4
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I have figured out it is the extractor that the rim of the casing is pushing into from the magazine. is that spring tension in the mag that is causing that? and I am also using sig JHP . I have read that 1911s can have an issue in eating the JHP. THOUGHTS?
 
Old 02-03-2018, 03:16 PM   #5
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The 1911 is a controlled feed design.
When the slide moves forward the lower portion of the breech face pushes a round out of the magazine.
As the round comes out, it slides up the breech face under the extractor.

The extractor must have the correct tension and engagement in order for it to work.
Too much tension and the round will not slide up the breech face and the slide can't close.
Too little tension and the fired case will not extract and eject.

If the engagement is wrong the case may fail to feed or eject.

Here's some info on how to check or adjust the extractor:

https://www.m1911.org//technic2.htm

Note particularly the drawings on how the extractor hook and slot need to be lightly rounded in order for the case rim to slide up correctly.
Many less expensive (and a few expensive) 1911's come from the factory without correct fitting or adjustment.
Also note how to adjust the engagement of the hook with the case rim.
Too much and there's problems. Not enough and you get failures to extract and eject.

If you try to adjust it and get it wrong, you'll have voided the warranty.

Last edited by dfariswheel; 02-03-2018 at 03:20 PM.
 
Old 02-03-2018, 03:32 PM   #6
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ty my friend
 
Old 02-04-2018, 08:37 AM   #7
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I was mistaken my friend, its the ejector the casing is riding against, and I believe its the magazine. Specifically the follower. I just got 2 MecGar mags in the mail( which I'm not happy about they don't have the screw holes machined into them so I cant attach base plates unless I get the glue on ones ggrrr.) but they cycle just fine with a full mag. and the only difference is the follower. the RIA follower is obtuse and rises above the lip of the magazine which would seem to push against the ejector. the MecGar is flat and is flush with the mag lip profile. I believe I have found the culprit. the age old crappy factory mag goblin. Wilson Combat/Tripp,Chip , here I come or i could just order a new follower and would have a perfectly functional magazine. think ill do both. TY for your help and i hope this helps someone down the road.
 
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