|10-27-2002, 07:10 PM||#1|
Join Date: Jun 2001
BARNAUL JHP ammo
Ammoman has 9 X 18 BARNAUL MANUFACTURE JHP ammo for the MAK (Part Number #918-0080, 0090). The price seems OK but I don't know anything about this ammo.
Does anyone have experience with it? Is is decent ammo? Should I stick with brass case ammo?
Thanks in advance for any help.
|10-28-2002, 06:38 AM||#2|
Join Date: Dec 2001
I like the Barnaul HP's. They are very reliable in both of my Circle 10 Maks. As for the brass cases, unless you plan to reload for your Mak the steel cased ammo is cheaper. I beleive I read in a book about the Makarov that is was actually designed to use steel cased ammo.
I still have a pretty good supply of Barnauls but I'll check out Ammo Man's current price anyway. Thanks and enjoy your Mak.
I will always love my 1911's in .45acp but I still feel the Makarov is the most maligned and underated pistol out there right now. 8)
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|01-17-2003, 02:48 PM||#4|
Join Date: Aug 2001
My experience with Barnaul ammo has been very good. My Bulgarian Makarok prefers the Barnaul FMJ. Every once in a while it will choke on the HP ammo. I can shoot FMJ stuff all day and it never hiccups. Ironically, I have a CZ-83 in 9X18 and it chokes on every third round of FMJ ammo. It doesn't matter if it's Wolf, Barnaul or any other brand. If I shoot Barnaul HP, it never chokes. Go figure? BTW, Dan's ammo in PA is the best source for Barnaul ammo. He ships "free" east of the Mississippi. He charges $110. for HP and $105 for the FMJ stuff delivered to your door.
|02-02-2003, 04:39 PM||#5|
Join Date: Nov 2002
barnaul makes some pretty decent ammo for steel cased stuff. I've run it through my Mosin Nagant M44, and shot a fellows Mak w/ the JHP's on my last trip to the range. My M44 shot the barnaul better than the Winchester, and Sellier and Bellot I bought for it. I'm thinking in the next 2 months or so I will have to get myself one of these Makarovs, they seem like great little pistols!
|02-02-2003, 04:46 PM||#6|
Join Date: Jun 2001
I've never been a big fan of double action autos, but I like the MAK! I have a Bulgarian Circle 10 that was bought from SOG in Ohio. They advertise it as being in excellent condition, but it was even better than that! After carefully stripping the pistol and giving it a good cleaning to remove the rust inhibitor it appears the pistol was unfired. Not a mark on it!
The first magazine I fired through it (8 rounds @ 10 yards with Federal ball ammo) cut a single ragged hole, talk about good first impressions! I've since installed a Wolff 19 lb recoil spring and the little gun feeds EVERYTHING I have put through it, and shoots it all well.
What a bargain for $129!!! My only regret is I didn't buy THREE!
|10-22-2003, 04:36 AM||#8|
Join Date: Feb 2002
Well I shoot the H*ll out of this stuff. Its the cheapest and most plentiful 9x18 ammo in UT anyway. A couple of comments......
Barnaul is STEEL cased..not brass. But your mak was teethed on the stuff so shoot it and dont worry about it.
Ballistically its pretty decent also. Not quite as hot as Corbon but hotter then Hornady/Speer etc...in the JHP form. If they could only make a 109gr JHP that meets Wolfs ballistics..now we'd have a little smoker.
The CZ83 that has problems feeding is as Ironic as Ive ever heard. Ive had 3 of them, including my current CZ83 Mak. The feedramp on the last run of maks had a very prominent line where the barrel/frame meet.
If thats the case...polish the feed ramp. It solves the problem.
If you still have feeding prob's after that..then you have one of two issues. Lacquer build up or mag issues.
The chamber in my 83 Mak was very tight. With shooting alot of Lacquer coated ammo, it built up in my chamber and on my mag feed lips. The ammo literally got stuck in the chamber and in the mags on occasion. When cleaning your gun, use a very strong barrel solvent on the chamber when shooting Barnaul, Wolff etc. It will build up and you wont even see it..but it will mess up your guns reliability.
Also, CZ83 mag feed lips are very course at first and if you shoot lacquer coated ammo through them....the mag lips take longer to smooth out. Shoot brass for a while or just take apart your mags and polish the feed lips on the underside a tad. Make sure your mags are clean and parts move freely...you shouldnt have any more problems.
My CZ83's will feed empty cases like they were candy. Just a note.
|07-02-2004, 03:38 PM||#10|
Join Date: Jun 2004
I also appreciate the info
Well, I've managed to find a Makarov at Centerfire Systems for $99.00 but now can't find even FMJ 9 x 18 ammo locally for under $16.00/box! Was about to order Barnaul FMJs from Midway but didn't know how well it would function. You all have taken the worries away and I too thank you.
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