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Old 07-10-2001, 01:00 PM   #1
 
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Hi all!

Like the saying goes, those who are looking for advice are only looking for an accomplice.

So here it is, I have some spare/liquid dinero that I'm coming into and I am considering a custom/customized 1911 (that or a .50BMG, big difference I know, but I got that urge too) and I was looking for input on what I should get/look for.

The pistol itself will only used for concealed carry and blasting anything at the range I want (when the range master ain't around :grin to blast. I have a my share of 10mms and .45acps, but only ONE lowly .38S/9x23 (an EAA Witness that Dane tells me ain't strong enough to handle prolonged use of the 9x23 :sad so that was the caliber I was considering, after that a set of night sites (bar dots are the fastest sites IMNSHO), one of those beavertail safeties. . . after that, I dunno.

What should I get? I see all of the BEAUTIFUL pistolas from Dane (and the like) with all their Buck Roger doodads and now I'm JEALOUS that I don't have one of those! :wink:

I am an avid Para fan (no flames or snide remarks! :wink and their "standard" 1911 has always worked fine for me, that's the honest truth. I have never really updgraded them to anything really customized. Hence THE itch!

Should I have it completely built from scratch? Should I have a base pistol, from either Springfield or Kimber, tweaked out?

Any further advice, from the accomplices :grin:, is appreciated!

Derek
 
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Old 07-10-2001, 01:27 PM   #2
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My suggestion would be to get a good basic gun, figure out what you want and don't want out of it and then have a no-kidding top 1% gunsmith do it all. I've found that gunsmiths charge about the same for equivalent work, so you might as well send it off to one of the top-flight guys so you have as close to zero worries as possible.

One idea I had was what I'd call the "Stealth Bomber." Basically, you take the plainest, ugliest pistol possible (e.g. a parkerized Colt 1991A1) and give it uber-functionality without changing the stock appearance. So...

1. Trigger job with stock trigger pad & spur hammer. Bob the hammer to prevent bite if necessary.
2. Alter stock sights for better function (e.g. open up rear sight if necessary & make front sight more visible or add tritium insert), or use relatively stock-looking aftermarket sights. Novaks and Heinies will give you away... :grin:
3. Fit a Bar-Sto barrel.
4. Make completely reliable.

I like stainless better in general, but I think it looks too good for this use. Go parkerized and maybe INTENTIONALLY make it uglier for good measure. Plastic grips, triggers and MSH only add to the "appeal." If you are really devious grind off the original rollmarks and replace them with "Charles Daly." :grin: :grin: :grin:

"What's that?" "Oh, just my crappy old mil-spec..." BOOM BOOM BOOM. "Lookit that, there's only one hole. Must be my lucky day." :eek:
 
Old 07-10-2001, 02:17 PM   #3
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The "PUSHER MAN" sez, "how about a Colt Series 70?" :grin:



Vedecki trigger, BarSto, hard ball sights, .125" x 1.25" rear notch, .190"x .125" front, tool steel hammer, sear and disconnector.



 
 
Old 07-10-2001, 02:53 PM   #4
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Hoyt Axton, John Kay & Steppenwolf!
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Old 07-10-2001, 03:09 PM   #5
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Dane,

Never miss an opportunity to pimp some Gun Porn, eh? :grin:
 
Old 07-10-2001, 03:14 PM   #6
 
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Brown 'High Sweep' Grip Safety (contoured)
Brown Wide Thumb Safety (right-hand only, trimmed down)
Burns Hammer, Sear, and Disconnector
Caspian AFTEC Extractor
EGW Extra Long Ejector
Heinie Sights (white-ring Trijicon inserts)
Kart Barrel
MGW 4140 Oversize Bushing
Rock River/Caspian Bartstock Frame & Slide
Videki Aluminium Short Trigger (no holes)

Blued or Hard Chrome, serrations front & back, and rear & top of slide. An EGW slide-release, if one can be had with serrations instead of checkering.

Other action options: an STI hammer, EGW sear, and Briley disconnector, or a full T. Jacobson set.


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: telackey on 2001-07-10 15:19 ]</font>
 
Old 07-10-2001, 03:33 PM   #7
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I'm just a hick from the mountains of Utah, but why put a match barrel into a gun that's going to be used for protection? Why not spend the money for practice ammo instead?
 
Old 07-10-2001, 03:51 PM   #8
 
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On 2001-07-10 15:33, j.w. kerens wrote:
I'm just a hick from the mountains of Utah, but why put a match barrel into a gun that's going to be used for protection? Why not spend the money for practice ammo instead?
...the better to "HIT" you with, my man...
 
Old 07-10-2001, 11:20 PM   #9
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>>I'm just a hick from the mountains of Utah, but why put a match barrel into a gun that's going to be used for protection? Why not spend the money for practice ammo instead?<<
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LOL!
....and I'm just a hick from the mountains of Colorado and I've often wondered the same thing.

It's probably because so many gunslingers don't have the foggiest notion of the dynamics of a firefight. The target is not a target, if you know what I mean. There's a certain "something" about a moving target that actually shoots back at ya

For defense, just give me a very reliable 1911 .45 with a proper spec'd barrel, crowned and a comparatively tight bushing fit....then with lots of defensive shooting practice, you might get lucky in a bad situation.
 
Old 07-11-2001, 01:52 AM   #10
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but why put a match barrel into a gun that's going to be used for protection?
Guess that depends on the scenarios you envision for self protection. Ask the FBI guys at Miami or LAPD during the N.H. heist. It's is never a bad thing to have the most accurate gun possible in your hands. BTW a stock Beretta is damn accurate out of the box.

Whelen said, "only accurate guns are interesting". I agree. Most Kimbers and the newest Springfields will out shoot their owners. That wasn't true on the series 70's Colts at one time. I want to make sure the gun will out shoot me everytime.

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Why not spend the money for practice ammo instead?
Say $300 worth of ammo or a match barrel? I'd take the barrel and keep practicing for the money and ammo you get for $300. You can always grow into the barrel and you're not likly to wear it out. Practice is a never ending thing and isn't cheap either..

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