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Old 02-08-2002, 09:25 PM   #1
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Has anyone actually seen or handled one of these...

Striving for naiveté...

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Old 02-09-2002, 10:03 AM   #2
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Looks like an ugly P7 knockoff to me. "Patent pending" till sued by HK? :grin:
Old 02-09-2002, 10:42 AM   #3
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Freddie has been playing with a gas-operated pistol for years. I hope he has figured it out. If he were to crank out a bunch soon, it wouldn’t be a prototype anymore and USPSA and IDPA legal.
Old 02-09-2002, 10:35 PM   #4
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I don't know, but to me it looks like a P7 and CZ75 got left alone way to long together :grin: .
Old 02-10-2002, 08:50 PM   #5
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I don't see the P7 in this design as much as a refined (better?) Glock. I would have liked a steel rather than an alloy frame. Also wondering if Craig managed to get a crisp trigger using a striker fired system. (I haven't seen one yet.) Unfortunately, he went with the useless 1911 grip safety. Wish he would have substituted a real frame mounter safety. It looks it might be good for a small-handed shooter, but I'm not sure since it's double-stack. Anyway, I'd like to see and handle this gun since the concept is interesting.
Old 02-10-2002, 08:59 PM   #6
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It does look interesting. I always liked the way P7's shoot, just dislike the noise when the action "uncocks".

Using a fixed barrel design should certainly improve accuracy. P7's have been around a while...I wonder if perhaps the patents on the gas-delayed blowback system might have expired by now?
Old 02-10-2002, 09:05 PM   #7
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Calling this a "1911 style pistol" is a bit of a stretch. It's a single action with a grip safety, but that's where the similarity ends.

Still, it is interesting. Did any of you see the prototype at the SHOT show?
Old 02-10-2002, 09:28 PM   #8
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Fred Craig is known for some radical pistol making but I dont know about this one.It looks like some quasi-CZ clone.It probably will shoot but man it aint no looker.

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