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Old 10-11-2004, 11:51 AM   #11
 
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Another SWFA link:

http://www.riflescopes.com/products/IOR ... ctical.htm

The IOR's are good scopes, for $379 add their mount ( around $115 and $90 rings )
 
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Old 10-11-2004, 09:47 PM   #12
 
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glad we could be of some help to you.
 
Old 10-12-2004, 05:03 AM   #13
 
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You were, I'm going into this a little blind, I need all the help I can get. Thank you.
 
 
Old 10-17-2004, 12:28 PM   #14
 
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With a 40mm objective, would I want to (would I be able to?) use the low mount rings? Other than the profile of the gun, what does the height of the mount affect?
 
Old 10-17-2004, 06:58 PM   #15
 
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Height of the mount affects height of the optical center

Height of the mount affects height of the optical center. You might prefer to have a good cheek weld while looking through the optical center and so place the line of sight.

Of course you may choose to raise the head or otherwise make no effort to match comb and line of sight - then too some find their necks just too short to raise up.

Nice to have the scope well clear of the barrel but not too far - doesn't quite fit a fat lens cap may be a good place.

Then too field use may involve positions seldom seen on the range or from the bench.

Obviously a stock, barrel diameter, scope diameter, ring height is a system. That may be why I had a pet 7mm magnum with a known inferior (to VariX III or the Europeans) Leupold VariX II in 2x7 to get the power range I wanted in the size I wanted in the brand I wanted - it worked for me too.
 
Old 10-18-2004, 05:05 PM   #16
 
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If you want I have an (LNIB)extra Leupold Vari-X III 3.5X10 Standard Police Scope with a Duplex reticle I can let you have . I purchased three 5 years ago and ended up not using this one. I found a set of low mount rings in the box with it. You can have it for what I paid.By the way I use the same setup on a Remington 700 Police in .223 and am extremely satisfied. You can email me if interested.
Al
 
Old 10-28-2004, 06:14 PM   #17
 
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For target shooting or groundhog hunting I've been wanting to try the new VX-III in 6.5x20. Don't like the 50mm objective. I believe its called the Long Range (side focus) and the one I like has a 30mm body with a 40 mm objective.
 
Old 11-21-2005, 06:16 PM   #18
 
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SWFA has what they call the sample list. Dealer samples , scratch and dent ect. I just got a scope from them and was pleased with service and the scope when it came in, was as new!

They have some Kahles American 3x9 for less than 600. Zeiss Conquest 3x9 new are 450. Now this nearer or less than the VX-III with is crappy glass. I was looking at a VX-III 2.5x8 and was very disapointed. It was not clear around the edges, was a bit dark and the glass was "cold". The Bushnell 4200 is much better glass. I got a Kahles and it rocks! The Kahles has a"pop" and crispness, even at the edges. Kahles has hash marks on the reticle like a "BOONE AND CROCKET." Zeiss has a Mil-Dot.



I really can't see all the magification that some people are buying. A lot of people confusse magification with the ablity to see. It Aint SO! Most magifiaction does is amplify the crap glass. Pay for clearer glass! Otherwise you are just making the improfections in the lesses and mirrors bigger. The rule of thumb is that the less magification does better in lower light conditions.

You -CAN- do better than Leupold for the same or less money.
 
Old 11-21-2005, 07:19 PM   #19
 
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Well, do better than Leupold for a lot less money! Hmm! Now, I will be the first to admit that I've liked the Nighforce, Zeiss, Kahles, etc.., I will say I give the nod to clairity to certain scopes over Leupold. Since I have several highpower rifles and quality .22's, seems I just cannot afford these other high dollar scopes. Leupolds are high enough! Better than Leupold for less, not that I've been able to see so far! Though I've been rather please with the clarity of a couple of Swift scopes I own I still give the nod the Leupold.

To much magnification! I guess that depends on what you might be shooting. You might want to try shooting at groundhogs at 400-700 yards and see if the extra magnification does not help.
 
Old 11-22-2005, 05:25 AM   #20
 
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Originally Posted by Tim Williams
Well, do better than Leupold for a lot less money! Hmm! Now, I will be the first to admit that I've liked the Nighforce, Zeiss, Kahles, etc.., I will say I give the nod to clairity to certain scopes over Leupold. Since I have several highpower rifles and quality .22's, seems I just cannot afford these other high dollar scopes. Leupolds are high enough! Better than Leupold for less, not that I've been able to see so far! Though I've been rather please with the clarity of a couple of Swift scopes I own I still give the nod the Leupold.

To much magnification! I guess that depends on what you might be shooting. You might want to try shooting at groundhogs at 400-700 yards and see if the extra magnification does not help.
Hmm... Several high power rifles and quality .22s, yet can not afford a high dollar scope? Ok, so how did you pay for the guns? To me its a matter of priorities. I don't need a lot of guns, just a few good ones.

Shooting ground hogs at 700 yards??? WTF? The guy is asking about .223 with a standard twist barrel. This is not a sniper or military contractor in the sand with a .300 mag. Here is my point rephrased: you will be better pleased with a 3x9 Zeiss than a 6x18 Tasco. More magnification also requires more resoultion, otherwise all you get is an unclear blurr.

Most of the shots I have are at day break or sun set. The neigbors houses and roads control the fields of fire. I have to make damn certain that it is a coyote and not the neighbors German Shep. I also have a small time window to do it in. I can't dick around turning knobs and I'm not shooting from a bench to do it. The wider field of view is my friend. You are morally and legally responceable for every shot you take.
 
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