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Old 10-08-2006, 07:08 AM   #1
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I have been wanting to buy a (double stack) STI OR SVI for sometime now. I can't decided if I want the 9 mm or the .40 S&W.

I only have a few 40's and good many 9 mm and 45's. I am not too crazy about the 40, but it shines in competition. I would like to use it in IDPA as well as USPSA and I know that IDPA requires a bbl. bushing on 5" pistols. I guess I would have to research the models and see which models can be used in both sports.

I really like STI's Edge, but being a accuracy freak, I lean toward the SVI. I know that either one can out shoot me, however, I have a Ransom Rest that I enjoy playing with. I work up loads and see how accurate they are. That is not important to some, but that is something I enjoy.

I know the SVI's are more expensive and a wait is involved; is the accuracy that much better?

I guess what I am really asking...which models are you using in both sports and the caliber you are using.

I am getting ready to make the plunge. Help guide me.

Thanks, Buddy
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Old 10-08-2006, 07:24 AM   #2
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I have three Infinity pistols;

a race gun (Open Division), a Limited gun and a classic single-stack .45.

IF you want this gun for both USPSA (IPSC) and IDPA, I would not get a 9 or a .40. I would get a single-stack .45.

You can't use a 9mm in Limited, which is where a double-stack would normally be. If you get a bushing .45, you are perfect for both IDPA and the new Single Stack Division of UPSPA.

Note that, in addition to the AET barrels, SVI has a patented 3-lobe barrel bushing and the patented Tri-Glide Trigger. An STI is a good gun for the money, but if you really want accuary, not to mention the thrill of speccing out the gun, right down to the serial number, SVI is the way to go. :wink:
Old 10-08-2006, 07:40 AM   #3
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Thanks for the reply. I have 3 Les Baer, 1 Wilson KZ 45, 1 Clark, 1 Johnny Ngai, several customs by area gunsmiths, and 6 or 8 factory 45's. You might say I am forty-five rich; poor according to my wife.

I really want either a 9 mm or a .40 S&W. I think that the 40 will probably get the nod, I can download it to shoot like a 9 and hot load it to shoot major. However, it is still up in the air.

Old 10-08-2006, 01:42 PM   #4
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If you want a double-stack, I'd suggest the .40 so you can compete in Limited Division. Take a close look at the Sight Tracker.

I don't know if IDPA has an equivalent; concealment is NOT a USPSA issue and I don't compete with my carry guns. You could have a double-stack built with a bushing, but it won't be a Sight Tracker.
Old 10-08-2006, 04:21 PM   #5
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I recently started shooting IDPA and favor it over USPSA, however I want to be allowed to shoot both, with the same pistol. I will have to read the rules of IDPA closely to determine what is legal and what isn't. USPSA doesn't really matter, you can shoot darn near anything.

Thanks for the input, Buddy
Old 10-14-2006, 05:44 PM   #6
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I think if you try to do both IDPA and IPSC with one gun you may well do neither well. They are two very different types of competition and require different equipment. Like you, I have several very nice 45's which were fine for IDPA but I wasn't cutting it in IPSC matches up against the guys with Limited and open guns. My single stack 45's meant more reloads and less rounds to shoot with - a primary reason I went to a 40 doublestack. I looked at STI and the SVI Sight Tracker - went with the SVI and have found a gun that meets all my needs.
Old 10-15-2006, 09:56 AM   #7
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I have several very nice 45's which were fine for IDPA but I wasn't cutting it in IPSC matches up against the guys with Limited and open guns.
False comparison. A single-stack would not compete against even a Limited gun, still less an Open one. Period.

A single-stack .45 would compete in Limited - 10 or the new Single Stack Division. If you want a one-size-fits-all gun, get something you can shoot in USPSA's Production Division; it is the closest to IDPA in requirements.
Old 10-15-2006, 02:40 PM   #8
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I know what Duffy is talking about; you are not really scored against the other divisions, but if you are on the same squad you feel like you are. Particularly like today's match with two 37 round minimum stages. If you are shooting a single stack, you are going to change a few mags.

Anyway, I played with a STI .40 S&W today and think I will probably go that route. That sucker had almost no recoil compared to the pistols I have in 40. It was not much different than my softy 40 load that is used for steel. Very nice pistol.

Thanks, now I'll wait for Christmas. Probably not.
Old 10-15-2006, 08:55 PM   #9
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Get the SVI. Superior engineering, no MIM and the chance to spec out the gun, down to the serial number. :wink:
Old 10-16-2006, 01:43 PM   #10
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STI/SVI. Ford vs Chevy.

Both have strong points, both have weak points.

I own and shoot both and dont go out of my way to bash the other.

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