officer length frame

x-51 · 06-28-2007, 08:00 AM

Hello all. I was wandering who was the first to produce a officer size frame? Was it a factory offering or a custom job?

buddy_fuentes · 06-28-2007, 08:09 AM

I don't have a clue, but the first one I saw was the Colt Officer's Model. I would imagine, as usual, someone made a custom and it sparked the creativity of some corporate monkey. Read that as monkey see monkey do.

Buddy

Jim Watson · 06-29-2007, 05:20 AM

I figure the OACP was Colt's response to gunzine promotion of the Detonics.
Nonte was showing how to cut the butt off of 1911s well before the Detonics came out.

The Detonics is shorter in the butt than the OACP and any custom conversions were of whatever length struck the gunsmith's fancy, so you could say that the OACP was an original of EXACTLY that length.

buddy_fuentes · 06-29-2007, 08:43 AM

I have a Officer's size frame with a Commander length slide and I wish I had just gotten the Commander frame also. I really can't see any advantage to the short butt. I thought it would be easier to carry, but it ain't so.

I added a Smith and Alexander mag well and made it a tad longer.

Buddy

x-51 · 06-29-2007, 10:55 AM

Thanks for the information fellas.

Gordon Hulme · 11-19-2007, 05:21 PM

Air Force General Curtis LeMay commisioned it in the 60's. 8)
It was known as "the general officer's pistol" and was made up in air force machine shops and some other service general grade officers got them for a while.

06-28-2007, 08:00 AM	#1
x-51 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 6	First officer size frame? Hello all. I was wandering who was the first to produce a officer size frame? Was it a factory offering or a custom job?

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06-28-2007, 08:09 AM	#2
buddy_fuentes Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 571	I don't have a clue, but the first one I saw was the Colt Officer's Model. I would imagine, as usual, someone made a custom and it sparked the creativity of some corporate monkey. Read that as monkey see monkey do. Buddy

06-29-2007, 05:20 AM	#3
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 876	I figure the OACP was Colt's response to gunzine promotion of the Detonics. Nonte was showing how to cut the butt off of 1911s well before the Detonics came out. The Detonics is shorter in the butt than the OACP and any custom conversions were of whatever length struck the gunsmith's fancy, so you could say that the OACP was an original of EXACTLY that length.

06-29-2007, 08:43 AM	#4
buddy_fuentes Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 571	I have a Officer's size frame with a Commander length slide and I wish I had just gotten the Commander frame also. I really can't see any advantage to the short butt. I thought it would be easier to carry, but it ain't so. I added a Smith and Alexander mag well and made it a tad longer. Buddy

06-29-2007, 10:55 AM	#5
x-51 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 6	Thanks for the information fellas.

11-19-2007, 05:21 PM	#6
Gordon Hulme Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 443	Air Force General Curtis LeMay commisioned it in the 60's. 8) It was known as "the general officer's pistol" and was made up in air force machine shops and some other service general grade officers got them for a while.